Previous "Giants" in the Heavyweight division

[SlySlickSmooth]

Primo Carnera
Boxrec has him listed at 6' 5? , I've seen others say up to 6'7.
Reach: 85"

Notable connection in history:
Was the champion when he lost to Max Baer, who got beat by the "Cinederella Man" James Braddock.. who then later lost the title to the great Joe Louis.

[jack p]

Ed Too Tall Jones

Name: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones
Born: 1951-02-23
Birthplace: Jackson, Tennessee, USA
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Dallas, Texas, USA
Height: 6***8242; 9***8243; / 206cm
Reach: 88***8243; / 224cm
Weight: 271 lb (123 kg)

A copy paste from box-rec
Ed (Too Tall) Jones is best known for playing 15 seasons for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League.

Jones, a defensive end, was considered one of the most dominant defensive players of his era and had a career sack total of 106.

He was the first overall selection in the 1974 draft and was part of the Cowboys' Super Bowl XII championship team, which defeated the Denver Broncos 27-10 to win the title on January 15, 1978.

Jones retired from the NFL in 1979 to pursue a professional boxing career.

Boxing had always held a fascination for Jones. "It wasn't that I had boxing idols like Liston and Louis and Patterson," he said, "but that every boxer was my idol." He decided in 1977 that he couldn't stand being out of the ring any longer and that he would box, but he stayed with the Cowboys because he had two years left on his contract and he felt he should honor it.

In his pro debut, Jones was floored and received a majority decision win that was resoundingly booed by the crowd. Red Smith of the New York Times wrote: "He cannot box, he cannot punch and his chin gives off a musical tinkle when tapped."

After compiling a record of 6-0 against mediocre opposition, Jones returned to the NFL to play for the Cowboys from 1980 to 1989.

Throughout his unbeaten six-fight career, Dave Wolf, Jones' manager, said Jones was "embarrassed by his performance but not to the extent that he gave up out of embarrassment. What we were all amazed at was the animosity he seemed to create. Suddenly, he was the villain, as though he had broken a sacred law by giving up football." Murphy Griffith, Jones' trainer, said, "I think the big problem was everyone thought he was too good a football player to be a novice in a foreign activity—and to look like a novice."

"I have never been around so many crummy people in all my days," Jones said of his time in boxing. But he also said, "Boxing was the best thing that ever happened to Ed Jones."

According to Sports Illustrated, Jones refused to discuss his reasons for returning to football, but he told intimates that his mother hated boxing. When she had a slight heart attack after his third fight, Jones told friends, "I can't torment her like this."

Kermit Kane, a friend of Jones from Dallas, said, "Deep in his heart, he thought boxing would be a lot easier than it was."




If he fought today he would be champion the Klitschco fans would be drooling
over this guy..If Jones Willard and Carnera fought today Klitschco fans would truly believe these guys were unstoppable now and forever...The reason boxing history isn't littered with these big guys..Is because they got beat up by little guys like Dempsey and Louis. they could't rise to the top..Boxing a tough sport conditions make great fighters not size...Boxing favors other qualitys then size and strength..Thats why Wlad had no answer for Sanders..Wlad showed us all a lesson that "Using your face to block punches
isn't the best strategy" Sanders showed us in all his fights how much he hated doing sit-ups..
these three along with the Klitschco brothers had no equals

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lmao at the ref in the Baer fight.. It's just such a different sport back then, Baer scored like 4 knockdowns in a round and the ref never broke the action, no count, it's just crazy compared to modern fights

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Did anyone see the main title for the max Baer fight..

2 things stuck out
It said Madison square garden BOWL - never heard it called that before

Also it said it was a "MILK FUND" fight. What does that mean?

[jack p]

Also it said it was a "MILK FUND" fight. What does that mean?[/QUOTE]

Milk Funds were set up all over tghe country by governments and religious groups to provide milk for undernourished children beck in the 1930's during the depression

[Scott9945]

Name: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones
Born: 1951-02-23
Birthplace: Jackson, Tennessee, USA
Nationality: US American
Hometown: Dallas, Texas, USA
Height: 6***8242; 9***8243; / 206cm
Reach: 88***8243; / 224cm
Weight: 271 lb (123 kg)

A copy paste from box-rec
Ed (Too Tall) Jones is best known for playing 15 seasons for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League.

Jones, a defensive end, was considered one of the most dominant defensive players of his era and had a career sack total of 106.

He was the first overall selection in the 1974 draft and was part of the Cowboys' Super Bowl XII championship team, which defeated the Denver Broncos 27-10 to win the title on January 15, 1978.

Jones retired from the NFL in 1979 to pursue a professional boxing career.

Boxing had always held a fascination for Jones. "It wasn't that I had boxing idols like Liston and Louis and Patterson," he said, "but that every boxer was my idol." He decided in 1977 that he couldn't stand being out of the ring any longer and that he would box, but he stayed with the Cowboys because he had two years left on his contract and he felt he should honor it.

In his pro debut, Jones was floored and received a majority decision win that was resoundingly booed by the crowd. Red Smith of the New York Times wrote: "He cannot box, he cannot punch and his chin gives off a musical tinkle when tapped."

After compiling a record of 6-0 against mediocre opposition, Jones returned to the NFL to play for the Cowboys from 1980 to 1989.

Throughout his unbeaten six-fight career, Dave Wolf, Jones' manager, said Jones was "embarrassed by his performance but not to the extent that he gave up out of embarrassment. What we were all amazed at was the animosity he seemed to create. Suddenly, he was the villain, as though he had broken a sacred law by giving up football." Murphy Griffith, Jones' trainer, said, "I think the big problem was everyone thought he was too good a football player to be a novice in a foreign activity—and to look like a novice."

"I have never been around so many crummy people in all my days," Jones said of his time in boxing. But he also said, "Boxing was the best thing that ever happened to Ed Jones."

According to Sports Illustrated, Jones refused to discuss his reasons for returning to football, but he told intimates that his mother hated boxing. When she had a slight heart attack after his third fight, Jones told friends, "I can't torment her like this."

Kermit Kane, a friend of Jones from Dallas, said, "Deep in his heart, he thought boxing would be a lot easier than it was."




If he fought today he would be champion the Klitschco fans would be drooling
over this guy..If Jones Willard and Carnera fought today Klitschco fans would truly believe these guys were unstoppable now and forever...The reason boxing history isn't littered with these big guys..Is because they got beat up by little guys like Dempsey and Louis. they could't rise to the top..Boxing a tough sport conditions make great fighters not size...Boxing favors other qualitys then size and strength..Thats why Wlad had no answer for Sanders..Wlad showed us all a lesson that "Using your face to block punches
isn't the best strategy" Sanders showed us in all his fights how much he hated doing sit-ups..
these three along with the Klitschco brothers had no equals

You can't seriously be saying that Too Tall Jones would actually beat Klitschko? He stunk and wouldn't last one round sparring with Wladimir. Willard and Carnera were also stiffs who would be very ordinary in boxing today. And Corey Sanders would have beaten them all too.

[Viti Ben-Wa]

Gerry Cooney was a big guy who could fight a bit. His left hook upstairs and down was amongst the best in heavyweight history I believe. To bad he didn't have the mentality and chin to capitalize on his size and booming left hand.

[jack p]

You can't seriously be saying that Too Tall Jones would actually beat Klitschko? He stunk and wouldn't last one round sparring with Wladimir. Willard and Carnera were also stiffs who would be very ordinary in boxing today. And Corey Sanders would have beaten them all too.

No I'm not saying any of these guys would have beaten the Klitschko's What I'm saying is they wouldn't be considered stiffs.. Well Jones would get knocked out easy But Willard wouldn't be a stiff...If he fought now he would do well.. He could take a punch.. He was strong He killed a man with a uppercut in a fight early in his career....He had stamina.. He wouldn't be considered a stiff
he would be considered just as good as anyone fighting presently

If the Klitschco's fought at the same time period as when Willard or Carnera fought they would be considered stiffs...Willard could take a punch better then the Klitschko's way better All the heavyweights today are ordinary...

[Scott9945]

No I'm not saying any of these guys would have beaten the Klitschko's What I'm saying is they wouldn't be considered stiffs.. Well Jones would get knocked out easy But Willard wouldn't be a stiff...If he fought now he would do well.. He could take a punch.. He was strong He killed a man with a uppercut in a fight early in his career....He had stamina.. He wouldn't be considered a stiff
he would be considered just as good as anyone fighting presently

If the Klitschco's fought at the same time period as when Willard or Carnera fought they would be considered stiffs...Willard could take a punch better then the Klitschko's way better All the heavyweights today are ordinary...

While I still somewhat disagree (mostly about Willard), the clarification helps.

[Ray Corso]

The out door MSG was known as the "Bowl" many title fights were held there.
In the Cinderella Man movie the set design was pretty close to the original setting when Baer lost to Braddock.
Ray