Sugar Ray Robinson, Charles, Greb and Armstrong have the best resumes of all time

[jas]

Sugar Ray Robinson

Sugar Ray Robinson has 19 wins over 9 Hall of famers that were within 5 years of their prime.

Gene Fullmer (he was also robbed of a 2nd win in their 4th fight)
Carmen Basillio
Randy Turpin
Jake Lamotta 5x
Bobo Olson 4x
Kid Gavlian 2x
Sammy Angott 2x
Fritzie Zivic 2x
Henry Armstrong (they fought in 1943, his prime was around 1937-40)



Ezzard Charles

18 wins over hall of famers that were 5 years within their prime.

Moore x3, Marshall x2, Burley x2, Bivins x3(the 4th was 5 years removed from his prime), Maxim x4, Walcott x2, Joe Louis, Teddy Yarosz.



Harry Greb

Beat 13 hall of famers - Kid Norfolk, Tunney, Levinsky, T.Gibbons,M. Gibbobs, Dillon, Flowers, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Walker, Loughran, Blackburn, Billy Miske



Henry Armstrong

Beat 10 HOFers: Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic, Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendy

[SBleeder]

Sam Langford is easily a member of this group, and it could be argued that his resume is superior to all of theirs.

[Holywarrior]

Greb, W for W could be argued over Robinson as the GOAT

[LacedUp]

Just commented on this in another thread. There are a few guys that can be in this conversation.

Obviously the guys you mentioned, but also Canzoneri, McClarnin, Ali, B. Leonard, Ray Leonard (didn't have 200 fights but had quality all the way through), Monzon - and of course, Sam Langford, who probably has one of the best resumes of all times - some may say he has the best.

[Holywarrior]

Just commented on this in another thread. There are a few guys that can be in this conversation.

Obviously the guys you mentioned, but also Canzoneri, McClarning, Ali, B. Leonard, Ray Leonard (didn't have 200 fights but had quality all the way through), Monzon - and of course, Sam Langford, who probably has one of the best resumes of all times - some may say he has the best.

Ross is greaterr than Canzoneri and McClarnin for my money

[jas]

Sam Langford is easily a member of this group, and it could be argued that his resume is superior to all of theirs.

Just commented on this in another thread. There are a few guys that can be in this conversation.

Obviously the guys you mentioned, but also Canzoneri, McClarning, Ali, B. Leonard, Ray Leonard (didn't have 200 fights but had quality all the way through), Monzon - and of course, Sam Langford, who probably has one of the best resumes of all times - some may say he has the best.

Great additions.

[LacedUp]

Ross is greaterr than Canzoneri and McClarnin for my money

Canzoneri has McClarnin, Kid Chocolate, Benny Bass, Ja****, Klick, Billy Petrolle, Ambers, Baby Arizmendi, Jackie Kid Berg, Battling Shaw, Sammy Fuller, Al Singer, Andre Routis. OK he didn't get past Ross - who was bigger and Canzoneri was also past his prime by that point.

I don't know who was greatest, but Canzoneri went up from Bantamweight and fought much much bigger guys.

Regardless, Barney Ross is also up there, so is Rosenbloom.

[LacedUp]

In all seriousness, there are 5 guys in this conversation:

Robinson, Charles, Armstrong, Langford and Greb.

Nobody touches these 5 in my opinion.

[Holywarrior]

Canzoneri has McClarnin, Kid Chocolate, Benny Bass, Ja****, Klick, Billy Petrolle, Ambers, Baby Arizmendi, Jackie Kid Berg, Battling Shaw, Sammy Fuller, Al Singer, Andre Routis. OK he didn't get past Ross - who was bigger and Canzoneri was also past his prime by that point.

I don't know who was greatest, but Canzoneri went up from Bantamweight and fought much much bigger guys.

Regardless, Barney Ross is also up there, so is Rosenbloom.

Canz has wins over past prime guys as well though?

And Ross Between beating the excellent Ray Miller in 1932 and his retirement in 1938, Ross lost two fights—one, a split decision loss to the great Jimmy McLarnin, disputed, twice avenged, and once to Henry Armstrong in his very last fight. He beat:

Ray Miller, Battling Battalino, Billy Petrolle twice, Joe Ghnouly, Tony Canzoneri in two title fights, Sammy Fuller, Frankie Click, Jimmy McLarnin twice, future middleweight champion Ceferino Garcia, Phil Furr and Izzy Jannazzo, winning the 135-pound, the 140-pound and the 147-pound titles in the process. Never anything like a full-grown welterweight, he was still able to defend that title several times after winning and re-winning it from McLarnin, before Armstrong caught up with him.

Along with Canzoneri and McLarnin, Ross made up the holy-trinity of that era’s boxing deities, and he was the master. He defeated the other two twice whilst losing only once to McLarnin, going 4-1 against his generation’s best who both rank here in the top 30 all time. Never knocked down in his professional career, a chin of hewn granite was the bedrock of a technical styling that nevertheless placed him in the danger zone against bigger men and brutal punchers. Capable of outboxing the faster Canzoneri, or outfighting the big-punching McLarnin, Ross was one of the defining talents to box between Harry Greb and Sugar Ray Robinson, his astonishing triple-crown achievement puts him above and in a top 15 list for me IMO

[Anthony342]

In all seriousness, there are 5 guys in this conversation:

Robinson, Charles, Armstrong, Langford and Greb.

Nobody touches these 5 in my opinion.

Yeah these are pretty much the top 5 pound for pound of all time right? And if you went top 10, I imaging guys like Ali, Louis, Archie Moore would be in there as well?