What do you guys think of Primo Carnera?

[Kid Achilles]

He had a good punch, but he was rarely set to land it. How about that.

[Lucas Machine]

Actually the fighter "Toro Moreno" in "The Harder They Fall" resembles Carnera even more than Quinn's character. His early fights were depicted as fixes and set ups. BTW, both the movies mentioned here are my two very favorite boxing films and I highly recommend them. You'll see a lot of great ex pros playing small and big parts in them.

Do you really think those movies were great? Or are you only saying this because they are in black and white opposed to colour? I say this because many Americans disregard modern films based on this ridiculous assumption. I'm not saying you are but I am curious why you rate an outdated, unrealistic film, so highly? Maybe it was good for it's time but in contemporary settings it looks quite silly.

[Scott9945]

Do you really think those movies were great? Or are you only saying this because they are in black and white opposed to colour? I say this because many Americans disregard modern films based on this ridiculous assumption. I'm not saying you are but I am curious why you rate an outdated, unrealistic film, so highly? Maybe it was good for it's time but in contemporary settings it looks quite silly.

Well tbh, I didn't originally watch those films in contemporary settings. But I do know a good boxing movie when I see one. The Harder They Fall starred Humphrey Bogart and Rod Steiger. Requiem for a Heavyweight starred Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney. These are all time great actors in stellar performances. Certainly better than Sylvester Stallone.

You call these movies unrealistic, and I couldn't disagree more. They didn't glamorize boxing or rewrite history. They showed the worst side of the sport. No happy last scenes. Are they current? Of course not. But they are the two best boxing movies I've ever seen. Be honest, did you even watch either of these films, or did you just automatically disqualify them because they were in black and white?

[JAB5239]

Well tbh, I didn't originally watch those films in contemporary settings. But I do know a good boxing movie when I see one. The Harder They Fall starred Humphrey Bogart and Rod Steiger. Requiem for a Heavyweight starred Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney. These are all time great actors in stellar performances. Certainly better than Sylvester Stallone.

You call these movies unrealistic, and I couldn't disagree more. They didn't glamorize boxing or rewrite history. They showed the worst side of the sport. No happy last scenes. Are they current? Of course not. But they are the two best boxing movies I've ever seen. Be honest, did you even watch either of these films, or did you just automatically disqualify them because they were in black and white?

Excellent reply!

[MRBOOMER]

Well tbh, I didn't originally watch those films in contemporary settings. But I do know a good boxing movie when I see one. The Harder They Fall starred Humphrey Bogart and Rod Steiger. Requiem for a Heavyweight starred Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney. These are all time great actors in stellar performances. Certainly better than Sylvester Stallone.

You call these movies unrealistic, and I couldn't disagree more. They didn't glamorize boxing or rewrite history. They showed the worst side of the sport. No happy last scenes. Are they current? Of course not. But they are the two best boxing movies I've ever seen. Be honest, did you even watch either of these films, or did you just automatically disqualify them because they were in black and white?

Ill take a bogart film over a Stallone one anyday. Unless its Casablanca -_- hate that ****ing movie.

[Scott9945]

Ill take a bogart film over a Stallone one anyday. Unless its Casablanca -_- hate that ****ing movie.

I'll take The Maltese Falcon over Casablanca anytime. That is a movie that seems very dated now.

[joseph5620]

Well tbh, I didn't originally watch those films in contemporary settings. But I do know a good boxing movie when I see one. The Harder They Fall starred Humphrey Bogart and Rod Steiger. Requiem for a Heavyweight starred Anthony Quinn, Jackie Gleason, and Mickey Rooney. These are all time great actors in stellar performances. Certainly better than Sylvester Stallone.

You call these movies unrealistic, and I couldn't disagree more. They didn't glamorize boxing or rewrite history. They showed the worst side of the sport. No happy last scenes. Are they current? Of course not. But they are the two best boxing movies I've ever seen. Be honest, did you even watch either of these films, or did you just automatically disqualify them because they were in black and white?

One of the greatest actors of all time. I would pick any of them over Stallone.

[MRBOOMER]

I'll take The Maltese Falcon over Casablanca anytime. That is a movie that seems very dated now.

I'm not good with names but I've Prbly seen it. My pops is old as hell so Everytime I ever watched a movie with him it was older and most likely in black and white

[mickey malone]

Back to topic, The Ambling Alp was'nt so much big-powerful, but more pig-awful..The Valuev of his day, makes even an old Foreman look like twinkle toes.
Carnera is'nt underrated, he just was'nt very good, and apart from heart, lacked every fundamental necessity.

[Anthony342]

Love Bogart too, The Harder They Fall and Requiem For a Heavyweight, but does everyone here really hate Rocky that much? I always thought it was a great underdog story. Liked the love story too. After the first 3, not much I can say to defend the series though, although thought the last one was well done, a good way to wrap up the series. Overall, it was enough for me to see him lose the title shot, win the rematch, defend the title and then regain it before retiring.