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    #21
    Originally posted by Baddest man on da planet
    i dont think he is

    people think tyson is overrated because, in part to his rabid, sometimes fanatical fans, who clame he is the best hw ever. in response to this, tyson is attacked for his level of oppositon and so on.
    i think tyson is top ten all time easy, and i dont overrate him, but many, who claim him to be the best ever, do overrate him

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      #22
      Originally posted by PBF34
      people think tyson is overrated because, in part to his rabid, sometimes fanatical fans, who clame he is the best hw ever. in response to this, tyson is attacked for his level of oppositon and so on.
      i think tyson is top ten all time easy, and i dont overrate him, but many, who claim him to be the best ever, do overrate him
      agreed pbf34, agreed.

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        #23
        Tyson should be on the elite top ten lists. He also is the biggest case of "shoulda, woulda, coulda" that there ever was in boxing, if not sports history. Tyson could have been the greatest ever if he would have stuck to his training; he should have been 50-0. The fact of the matter is, he threw it away. While he was a great fighter, he was also just a 'good' champion. The ones at the top of the list were generally great champions who kept their focus when it was necessary.

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          #24
          with Tyson homers it's always "if". If Cus didn't die, if Don King didn't take over, if he trained properly, if he didn't go to jail, if he didn't hurt his knee, if he didn't get fouled by holy......etc,etc

          It's very tiresome to me. I already regret I'm replying to this thread.

          Tyson had the skill to be the best of all time. He blew it. At what point in a man's life does he take responsibility for his actions and stop blaming circumstances and other people? He was a monster in the late eighties, but he blew his chance at greatness. He knows it as much as anyone becuase he is very intelligent and a student of history.

          His potential was that of greatness. The outcome of his career was very dissapointing.

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            #25
            Originally posted by marvdave
            with Tyson homers it's always "if". If Cus didn't die, if Don King didn't take over, if he trained properly, if he didn't go to jail, if he didn't hurt his knee, if he didn't get fouled by holy......etc,etc

            It's very tiresome to me. I already regret I'm replying to this thread.

            Tyson had the skill to be the best of all time. He blew it. At what point in a man's life does he take responsibility for his actions and stop blaming circumstances and other people? He was a monster in the late eighties, but he blew his chance at greatness. He knows it as much as anyone becuase he is very intelligent and a student of history.

            His potential was that of greatness. The outcome of his career was very dissapointing.
            yea i guess your right but i beleive people overrate him because of how great he could have been.

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              #26
              I think at his best he didnt have the quality opposition that could have made him a great champion.

              And ever since the Bruno fight he was rapidly declining.

              At his best (focused, fast, moving well, jabbing well etc) he looked great and i believe could have beaten alot of the great heavyweights.

              He was crap after prison, and even before it.

              BUUUUUUT!!

              Great fighters stay hungry and adapt to their handicaps. Like Ali and his reflexes, or Louis and his age.

              They overcome there physical or mental or personal issues, and rise to the challenge.

              Tyson couldnt, and didnt. He was beat by better fighters.

              If Ali was beaten by Frazier and Foreman, would he be considered GREAT?

              I think not.



              Tyson was awsome...but not great.

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                #27
                I don't believe that Tyson is overrated; except by those who think that he was indeed the best ever. He never got to that point. He had the opportunity, but he screwed the whole thing up.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bobby Peru
                  I think at his best he didnt have the quality opposition that could have made him a great champion.

                  And ever since the Bruno fight he was rapidly declining.

                  At his best (focused, fast, moving well, jabbing well etc) he looked great and i believe could have beaten alot of the great heavyweights.

                  He was crap after prison, and even before it.

                  BUUUUUUT!!

                  Great fighters stay hungry and adapt to their handicaps. Like Ali and his reflexes, or Louis and his age.

                  They overcome there physical or mental or personal issues, and rise to the challenge.

                  Tyson couldnt, and didnt. He was beat by better fighters.

                  If Ali was beaten by Frazier and Foreman, would he be considered GREAT?

                  I think not
                  .



                  Tyson was awsome...but not great.
                  he still would, just not the best ever. he beat liston, patterson, williams, chuvalo, quarry. he would still be a top ten hw.

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                    #29
                    he fought bums. lots of 'em

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by butterfly1964
                      he still would, just not the best ever. he beat liston, patterson, williams, chuvalo, quarry. he would still be a top ten hw.

                      most out of primes i would like to add.

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