***** Robinson is better at any weight.
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Originally posted by YogiAbdullah, why are you restricting Robinson to only the '50-'51 version?
You could go back quite a few years before that, as well, if you're making a case for him, because he did frequent the Middleweight division quite often when he was in his Welterweight prime and did have some very good wins when he did so (including a couple wins in 1945 over one of the very top Middleweight contenders of the time and future champion, Jake LaMotta, which were fights in which both fighters weighed within the Middleweight range).
he wasn't quite a middleweight then but he did a good job on lamotta so you have to call him a middleweight. After winning though he couldn't seem to hold on to it and lost too much and just wasn't the fire eating beast of 1950-51. I just thought he was slowing down and just plain tired of fighting. It's a rough sport so who can blame him?
Anyways, i saw his first fight with basilio and thought Robbie took it. i thought he was robbed. It was good to see Robbie take back his title in the rematch and do a job on Carmen's eye as a bonus. I read that Carmen said he felt that he could go another 15 rounds. When Robinson heard it he responded with "I'm sure he could have but not with me he couldn't"
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Having never seen SRR fight, only on old reels, but having seen plenty of both Hagler and Monzon (Monzon on tape), I'd have to say Marvin was the best. A slugger or a technician, depending on the situation. Monzon was good though, woulda like to have seen it go down!Last edited by Dazzaman; 12-29-2005, 03:24 AM.
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ray robinson was not a welterweight he was a middleweight and fought for the light heavyweight championship to
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Robinson held the welterweight title for a few years,
He than made the jump to middleweight. Winning from the Brox Bull, the middleweight title.
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