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    #71
    ***** Robinson is better at any weight.

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      #72
      Marvelous Marving Hagler is the best middleweight ever in my opinion, although I think that folks like Monzon, Hopkins and Robinson are not far behind.

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        #73
        Hagler followed by Monzon!

        SRR was better at welterweight.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Yogi
          Abdullah, why are you restricting Robinson to only the '50-'51 version?

          You could go back quite a few years before that, as well, if you're making a case for him, because he did frequent the Middleweight division quite often when he was in his Welterweight prime and did have some very good wins when he did so (including a couple wins in 1945 over one of the very top Middleweight contenders of the time and future champion, Jake LaMotta, which were fights in which both fighters weighed within the Middleweight range).
          because Robbie in 50 & 51 was better than later down the road.
          he wasn't quite a middleweight then but he did a good job on lamotta so you have to call him a middleweight. After winning though he couldn't seem to hold on to it and lost too much and just wasn't the fire eating beast of 1950-51. I just thought he was slowing down and just plain tired of fighting. It's a rough sport so who can blame him?

          Anyways, i saw his first fight with basilio and thought Robbie took it. i thought he was robbed. It was good to see Robbie take back his title in the rematch and do a job on Carmen's eye as a bonus. I read that Carmen said he felt that he could go another 15 rounds. When Robinson heard it he responded with "I'm sure he could have but not with me he couldn't"

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            #75
            Don't get me wrong though, Hagler may well be my favourite out of the two, but i'd say SRR is the better boxer overall.

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              #76
              Having never seen SRR fight, only on old reels, but having seen plenty of both Hagler and Monzon (Monzon on tape), I'd have to say Marvin was the best. A slugger or a technician, depending on the situation. Monzon was good though, woulda like to have seen it go down!
              Last edited by Dazzaman; 12-29-2005, 03:24 AM.

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                #77
                ray robinson was not a welterweight he was a middleweight and fought for the light heavyweight championship to

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                  #78
                  Robinson held the welterweight title for a few years,
                  He than made the jump to middleweight. Winning from the Brox Bull, the middleweight title.

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                    #79
                    Robinson was probably the best but Hagler is my favorite

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                      #80
                      I absolutely agree with that statement NOMERCY 90! I think that would have been a great fight , Hagler could stand in there with Robinson, I would'nt want to pick a winner, but lean towards Robinson,

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