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Tonight, Juan Manuel Marquez solidified his ATG status.

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    #21
    Originally posted by Great John L View Post
    So it's not much different than their previous two fights then. I kinda feel left out that I didn't see it though, lol.
    Marquez completely schooled him this time though. The other two were close fights, especially the first. The second I had Marquez by a couple points.

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      #22
      I gave JMM the first one barely. The second fight I had a draw, but the point from the knockdown gave manny the win on my card. Still have to watch this one. To Youtube! Away!!!

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        #23
        Originally posted by DarkTerror88 View Post
        I gave JMM the first one barely. The second fight I had a draw, but the point from the knockdown gave manny the win on my card. Still have to watch this one. To Youtube! Away!!!

        The first two fights were much better, IMO. There was too much feinting and posing in this fight for my taste. Marquez fought very well considering his age and the higher weight. Pacquaio basically looked like crap. Sure wish that I bet on the overs in this fight as I thought the predictions of a Pacquaio blowout were crazy. There wasn't anything remotely close to a knockdown in this match.

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          #24
          The difference between the first two fights is they were close fights that could have gone either way.

          This fight, however, was barely close.

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            #25
            Fight isnt on youtube yet....curses...

            Anyone know when it will be up for viewing? Or has the PPV copyright not worn off yet?

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              #26
              Originally posted by DarkTerror88 View Post
              Fight isnt on youtube yet....curses...

              Anyone know when it will be up for viewing? Or has the PPV copyright not worn off yet?
              It's in the video trading block, would put it on youtube but chances are it would get taken down asap.

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                #27
                I remember a few months back they had the entire Klitschko-Haye fight on Youtube. It was over an hour in just one video, so they might have this one sometime.

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                  #28
                  I just rewatched the fight for the first time and I imagine it will be the final time.

                  Because the second time round I had it even wider for Marquez.

                  How that fight can be scored to Pacquaio is utterly beyond me.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    Most on here and especially in this section know I don't consider Marquez to be an ATG.

                    I have always felt he is boarderline, on the verge of ATG status. Just behind it. Some agree with me, some don't. And that's all fine.

                    But, tonight, Juan Manuel Marquez left any doubt out of my mind. He is an ATG.

                    From this day forward I will adknowledge Marquez as having the W over Pacquaio in the 3rd fight. Like I do for Harold Johnson over Pastrano and Whitaker over Chavez.

                    I don't feel this fight was a robbery to the level of those fights. But what I do know, is Marquez won the fight. And he won it clearly.

                    Plenty on here also know I am a big Erik Morales fan, and have always considered Morales to be the levels above Marquez. Well, that's all changed now.

                    This win over Pacquaio has perpelled Marquez legacy to another dimension. Where is he ranked now?

                    But, he certainly is at the very least in the same sentance as the great Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrea.
                    I thought Pac won last night (15-13) but I thought Marquez eeked the first two fights. These two are just each other's shadow. Great stuff.

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                      #30
                      I already considered Marquez an ATG before this fight.

                      and Im really kind of surprised that people thought he won last night. I mean, I dont have a problem with people saying he won, but it definitely was NOT a robbery.

                      and I had Marquez winning the second fight. First fight is so close I end up changing my mind every time I watch it.

                      Ill try rescoring it later, but I didnt think Marquez was nearly as 'dominant' as some are making it out to be...I dont even think he won the fight, 6-6 in my mind. Perhaps its just people giving him rounds because he was doing the 'unexpected'.

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