No not the greatest- I can think of 225 better, go watch Weaver-Tate(#6) for starters.
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You asked and you got opinions. However, you also have to look at it from another point of view. My pick will always go to Jackson/Graham or Duran/Hearns. I think Duran/Hearns is the single greatest punch/KO in boxing history.Originally posted by Old Mongoose View Post
It knocked out a guy, top ten ATG at that, with everything who was considered basically knock out proof. One of the great chins of all time, one of the great defenses and as tough as anyone had ever come. Hearns nearly killed him. That shot is the loudest I've ever heard (it sounded like a cannon), and when you take everything into account it's the most brutal shot.
Whether or not he got up himself is irrelevant. I doubt there is another fighter in boxing's long history that could have done that to Duran. There are lots that could have done that to Williams however in my opinion.
What about Graham/Jackson?
As for guys who get back up, that is a testament to them rather than the punch. The fact Montiel got up is about his will, heart, toughness and his knock-out factor ie. what it takes to put him out completely. He obviously is nearly impossible to put out completely. That punch was pure brain scrambler and yet he got up! That's more about Montiel than the punch he got hit with. He would have got up from Martinez's too no doubt. Some guys just can't be really knocked out properly (meaning they stay down and out) by a human punch. However, he was absolutely not fighting back in the slightest. He was Fucked! with a capital F. Had no idea what was happening at all and just stood there.
It's some fighters most basic instinct to get back up. Their body will do it even if their head, brain, mind, etc etc is completely blacked out and functioning as much as Williams was. Their body just picks them up through instinct. When those guys get put out, it's really impressive.
Nonetheless, the Williams KO is amazing and definitely up there. Ten count, single punch KO of prime P4P guy. That's impressive but it has happened as bad and worse many, many times before.
Hearns/Schuler is great too.Last edited by BennyST; 06-01-2011, 08:33 PM.Comment
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Robinson fullmer II
Fullmer is a proven ATG. Williams is far from it.
Fullmer has a cast iron chin. Williams doesnt.
Robinson KOd him walking BACKWARDS in a fight he was losing. Martinez was already winning the fight and caught the not so iron chinned williams coming in, wide open, with a fast hard punch. I would be more shocked if it didnt KO him.
Now your going to tell me im wrong because Fullmer got up and williams was on the floor unconscious. It has more to do with Williams lack of chin and heart as opposed to the KO itself.Comment
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Just for the visual of the Williams falling almost exactly like a tree I'd put it up there.Comment
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First I don't really take into account how great the fighter was who was getting knocked out. I look at how devastating the punch was and what was the fighter like after the punch. That what I feel really counts.
Obvioulsey I'd say it should be judged on world level and who the fighters are, but that shound't be the main thing that counts.
But I don't see how the likes of Tarver/Jones or Fullmer/Ray were better than Sergio when both got up pretty quickly and weren't even properly Knocked out.
I guess it's all opinions. But I do feel Martinez's KO is really up there as the most devastating.Last edited by Perfect Plex; 06-01-2011, 09:53 PM.Comment
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Are you feel real? It had nothing to do with his heart. He was knocked out cold, and didn't even know were he was. He could have the biggest heart in the world and still wound't of got up.Originally posted by DarkTerror88 View Post
How can your heart be questioned when your completey knocked out cold? And it's completey out of your hands whether you get up or not.
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I question Williams' heart from his career as a whole. Although I do like him an I know that he is good.Originally posted by Old Mongoose View PostAre you feel real? It had nothing to do with his heart. He was knocked out cold, and didn't even know were he was. He could have the biggest heart in the world and still wound't of got up.
How can your heart be questioned when your completey knocked out cold? And it's completey out of your hands whether you get up or not.
I think that in the first foreman fight, Frazier got up on heart more than anything. Montiel vs Donaire, montiel got up on heart.
I think Robinson-Fullmer II is the quintessential KO. You bring up valid points and are a good poster on this board. I respect your opinion so it looks like we will have to agree to disagree.Comment
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I can't say it's the greatest because I haven't seen every one punch KO but it's definitely up there because it was A level competition, brutal as **** as his lights went out, and it was in the 2nd round for christ sake. Kinda hard to top.Comment
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many are greater.
They dont let boxers get up untill they have been checked over by the ring doctor
here you can even see the doc running to paul while signaling to the ref keep him down while paul positions his arms in order to pick himself up.
your claim that he would have been down for mins is malarkey.
if i had been koed like that, because i throw an absudly open hook with out any guard and got countered all in the second round, i wouldn't want to move id just lay there and think about what just happened while i reflect on why i would do something like that, reflect on my legacy, reflect on my ******ity.
was he koed, yes, was it as great as Fullmer robinson? or walcott marciano? no.Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 06-01-2011, 11:28 PM.Comment
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