Who beats Roberto Duran ...

[JAB5239]

yeah i think though where the sport has regressed most is in the depth of competition, I mean the cream of the crop from today .. your pacs,floyds hopkins, jones jnrs (of a few years back) and the like could certainly mix it with the best of their respective weights from the past, but once you start going past the top two or three the standard drops away massively from say what it was in even the 70s. I guess its mainly cause the sport was bigger 50/60 years ago than it is now, and 1,000 serious guys competing against eachother results in a much tougher top twenty than just 100 serious guys competing.

I can accept this!

[JAB5239]

Of course skill matters. But for example Floyd Mayweather has every skill you could want + the benifits of modern science and technology.

So what? Benny Leonard, Joe Gans, Eder Jofre, Wille Pep, Sam Langford, Tony Canzoneri, SRR, Kid Gavilan......should I go on?.......all had every skill you could want and were 15 round fighters or better. What's your point?

[IronDanHamza]

somebody who would offer him plenty of movement and get him out of his comfort zone...

i am not saying they WOULD beat him but i think PEA and PBF will offer him those things and really test him...

beating the guy @ LW is made more difficult with master strategists ray arcel and freddie brown on his side... damn...

I think Floyd Mayweathrer Jr would HATE being in there with Duran. I think that fight would be the other way round, Mayweather would be taking out his comfortzone. Mayweather would hate Duran on the inside on him roughing him up. He had problems with Castillo but IMO did enough to handle him both him, but Duran is a different animal.

Mayweather would give him issues at times by being on the outside but Duran would have no repsect for his power. And Mayweather isn't a dancer that would constantly move, the fight WILL go to the inside alot and when that happens Duran would pound him and outwork him.

Mayweather obviously isn't stopping him and I struggle to see how he wins a descision with Duran at LW.

Whitaker has much more of a chance but again Duran would have no respect for his power and would rough up Whitaker. I imagine if they were to fight he would backpedal most of the fight giving Duran problems but he would be able to stop Duran getting on the inside IMO in which would favour Duran massively.

I really can't pick anyone to beat Duran at LW on his best day.

[talip bin osman]

I think Floyd Mayweathrer Jr would HATE being in there with Duran. I think that fight would be the other way round, Mayweather would be taking out his comfortzone. Mayweather would hate Duran on the inside on him roughing him up. He had problems with Castillo but IMO did enough to handle him both him, but Duran is a different animal.

Mayweather would give him issues at times by being on the outside but Duran would have no repsect for his power. And Mayweather isn't a dancer that would constantly move, the fight WILL go to the inside alot and when that happens Duran would pound him and outwork him.

Mayweather obviously isn't stopping him and I struggle to see how he wins a descision with Duran at LW.

Whitaker has much more of a chance but again Duran would have no respect for his power and would rough up Whitaker. I imagine if they were to fight he would backpedal most of the fight giving Duran problems but he would be able to stop Duran getting on the inside IMO in which would favour Duran massively.

I really can't pick anyone to beat Duran at LW on his best day.

mayweather would hate duran on the inside (duran is the better inside fighter and the stronger one) IF he doesnt move... fine, the 1st castillo fight, PBF chose to mix it up more on the inside against the mexican... (shoulder injury perhaps?) but for the return match, PBF offered more movement and displayed a more nuanced ring generalship wherein he engaged in the pocket less and became more economical with his punches, picking spots and "found his bicycle" to bring castillo out of his comfort zone so to speak...

for the record despite these things, i would still favor the panamanian to win this fantasy fight because i feel duran can deal with anything PBF has to offer, but not completely sure if its the same the other way around...

[bklynboy]

you would have to completely out box him and move alot...


maybe Whitaker ,De La Hoya or Floyd if he didn't catch them in the later rounds

Whitaker may take one in a series and so may have a younger, hungrier Floyd. Meaning that if Duran was the man to beat as Floyd was coming up and Floyd was focused on getting the title from Duran then yes I could see a competitive series. But if we're talking about 27 year old Floyd, just before his first retirement v Duran while he's still at lightweight then no way Floyd wins.

I don't see DLH winning even one fight in 5.

[bklynboy]

I think Floyd Mayweathrer Jr would HATE being in there with Duran. I think that fight would be the other way round, Mayweather would be taking out his comfortzone. Mayweather would hate Duran on the inside on him roughing him up. He had problems with Castillo but IMO did enough to handle him both him, but Duran is a different animal.

Mayweather would give him issues at times by being on the outside but Duran would have no repsect for his power. And Mayweather isn't a dancer that would constantly move, the fight WILL go to the inside alot and when that happens Duran would pound him and outwork him.

Mayweather obviously isn't stopping him and I struggle to see how he wins a descision with Duran at LW.
Whitaker has much more of a chance but again Duran would have no respect for his power and would rough up Whitaker. I imagine if they were to fight he would backpedal most of the fight giving Duran problems but he would be able to stop Duran getting on the inside IMO in which would favour Duran massively.

I really can't pick anyone to beat Duran at LW on his best day.

Couldn't agree more.

[Daddy T]

Watch mayweather looking like **** against castillo at 135 and then try to explain how he beats Duran ...

[klipsch speaker]

Why is it that most people underestimate PBF here in this fantasy fight? as if duran would simply cut his head off and eat it?

Have you forgoten that a top contender named villomar fernandez gave duran some fits and was able to make duran obviously uncomfortable chasing him during their fight? fernandez was KOed eventually yes, but he was a fighter that resides somewhere below PBF's level.

its inevitable that the castillo fight would be brought up bcoz its obviously a good template (specially the 1st fight) to get clues from. But what about the 2nd fight?

And before we all forget, what about esteban de jesus victory against duran in thrir first meeting? the panamanian was floored in the 1st stanza and eventually lost the fight 8 rounds to 2? its a good template to use it also no?

I am not saying PBF wins since the thread's opening states that its duran at his best but i feel PBF would really test not only him but also present a good challenge to his cornermen arcel and brown to come up with a good strategy as well.

(for the record im no floyd stan)

[SCtrojansbaby]

Duran is the worst style for PBF at 135. Floyd would have trouble with the head mmovement of Duran and Duran would be able to muscle Floyd around on the inside.

Now at 147 Duran losses that physicality advantage and its a completely different fight.

[Steak]

Watch mayweather looking like **** against castillo at 135 and then try to explain how he beats Duran ...

well, duran and Castillo did not fight alike. Its a common misconception that Duran was that type of pressure fighter...he wasnt.

Duran was a passive-aggressive counter puncher...by that I mean he would constantly stalk you and put on pressure with feints without throwing many real punches, and actually force his opponent to lead and then counter them. he complemted this by using a sort of smart mauling attack at close range, and it was incredibly efficient.

If you watch Duran against Viruet or Bizzaro, you can tell hes incedibly pissed off at runners. make no mistake...he easily won and dominated those fights. but he wasnt a destroyer against guys that ran from him. He wasnt really a Castillo or Chavez type of pressure fighter that quickly cut the distance, he was very(almost too much) patient.

I see Duran winning, but this would be an ugly fight for him. Not too many punches landed on either side imo, and it would not be exciting.