Why wouldn't Hagler fight McCallum?

[Boxing Bob]

Hagler MAYBE great????????????? Now who needs to open their eyes. Do you really think you're right and the rest of us are wrong?

[Pastrano]

Hagler MAYBE great????????????? Now who needs to open their eyes. Do you really think you're right and the rest of us are wrong?

Here's a thought: BYE-BYE! I can't waste any more energy on this.

[fitefanSHO]

As UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION, it took an all time great like Sugar Ray Leonard to defeat Marvin Hagler for the title. I consider Ray to have been among the 10 best who ever lived, that's what it took to end Marvin's reign, an ATG Legend.

As a beltholder/titlist, it took all of Sumbu Kalambay to relieve Mike of his strap. Yes, the same Kalambay who went lights out when hit in the beak by Michael Nunn, oh ya...power punching Michael Nunn, the legend, the drug smuggling convict.

Then when Mike fought for the REAL Middleweight Championship, he was defeated by James Toney, a fighter I consider a little overrated at Middleweight and somebody who was nowhere near Marvin's level.

Then at 175 he lost to Fabrice Tiozzo, then Jones, then Toney AGAIN.

McCallum was great at 154, at middlweight he was NOT elite, by any stretch.

Hagler > McCallum

[titanium]

Hagler avoided McCallum much the way Sergio Martinez is avoiding Saul Alvarez. They are not fighting because there is no interest, not because Martinez is ducking.

[Pastrano]

As UNDISPUTED MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPION, it took an all time great like Sugar Ray Leonard to defeat Marvin Hagler for the title. I consider Ray to have been among the 10 best who ever lived, that's what it took to end Marvin's reign, an ATG Legend.

As a beltholder/titlist, it took all of Sumbu Kalambay to relieve Mike of his strap. Yes, the same Kalambay who went lights out when hit in the beak by Michael Nunn, oh ya...power punching Michael Nunn, the legend, the drug smuggling convict.

Then when Mike fought for the REAL Middleweight Championship, he was defeated by James Toney, a fighter I consider a little overrated at Middleweight and somebody who was nowhere near Marvin's level.

Then at 175 he lost to Fabrice Tiozzo, then Jones, then Toney AGAIN.

McCallum was great at 154, at middlweight he was NOT elite, by any stretch.

Hagler > McCallum

This is oficially the worst post of the year. Lemme explain a few things to you, sonny:
A-Sumbu Kalambay was one of the best middleweights of his time and can def be put among the 20-30 best mw's of ALL TIME. The fact that he was koed by Nunn means NADA. It was a close points victory and Kalambay fought at his home turf.
B-Mike won the second Toney fight unofficially and the first one was a draw.
C-Mike was 38 when he lost to Tiozzo and fighting well past his best weight and naturally, past his prime.

Capisce? Anything else you wanna ask?

[IronDanHamza]

Maybe all of you should open your eyes and see past your worshipping of Hagler. He was a very good fighter, maybe even great, but he sure wasn't unbeatable! Hell, he even lost twice in the early going! So why is it so inconceivable that he would/could lose to MCCALLUM? He never fought him, whatever the reason. He'd rather chase a rematch with SRL that never happened and then retire. Why did he retire so soon?? He was 33, surely he had more fights left in him and there were meaningful fights to make.

Why is it everytime someone disagrees with your opinion you accuse them of 'worshipping' a fighter?

[Barn]

Why is it everytime someone disagrees with your opinion you accuse them of 'worshipping' a fighter?

Mike McCallum Mafia!

[Steak]

I can see McCallum beating the Hagler that fought Leonard.

But, as far as I know, this fight was never even close to being discussed. At the time I thought McCallum was still at 154lbs and didnt have a huge name. One of those huge risk, little reward type of guys.

There really was no public appeal to see Hagler and McCallum fight. Certainly not more than Hagler-Leonard. Although I would have liked to see it happen, its an incredibly huge stretch to say that Hagler avoided McCallum....

[StarshipTrooper]

Hagler MAYBE great????????????? Now who needs to open their eyes. Do you really think you're right and the rest of us are wrong?

Yeah, that got a raised eyebrow from me too. I wasn't aware that that was even remotely open to debate. What's next? Ali was ordinary and Robinson was an ok fighter? :rolleyes9:

Poet

[fitefanSHO]

Sumbu Kalambay was one of the best middleweights of his time and can def be put among the 20-30 best mw's of ALL TIME. The fact that he was koed by Nunn means NADA.

KO by 1

It means plenty.

Look, Kalambay was good, I even liked him a bit back in the day but a fighter with losses to Ayub Kalule, Duane Thomas, and KO by 1 to Michael Nunn is NOT one of the 20-30 greatest middleweights of all time.