Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.

[StarshipTrooper]

Thats a good way of exsplaining why Tyson would beat Lewis, thanks Poet. What I was trying to exsplain was a little messed up. I admit I have had to much to drink have a nice night.

Hey, it's a fight night so you can have dispensation for bending the elbow a bit :hah9:

Poet

[SonnyboyReturns]

There is zero evidence Holyfield used Steroids.. Lewis refusal to fight John Ruiz is in my opinion a sign of his guilt of using steroids as Ruiz has always insisted his opponents be drug tested.. there is so many pointers saying Lewis was a steroid user with several Historians putting it into print, so claiming there is "ZERO evidence is totally incorrect yet in your case i have never known you to be correct on anything to do with boxing and i expected you to try to trip-me-up because you are Lewis No1 fan on this forum although you deny it

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[GJC]

There is zero evidence Holyfield used Steroids.. Lewis refusal to fight John Ruiz is in my opinion a sign of his guilt of using steroids as Ruiz has always insisted his opponents be drug tested.. there is so many pointers saying Lewis was a steroid user with several Historians putting it into print, so claiming there is "ZERO evidence is totally incorrect yet in your case i have never known you to be correct on anything to do with boxing and i expected you to try to trip-me-up because you are Lewis No1 fan on this forum although you deny it

I thought Lewis didn't fight Ruiz because he was terrified of him? Sonny for the 500th time I'm not a fan of Lewis but am a fan of facts and logic which is why I and 99% of the other posters don't agree with your take on Lewis. The ironic thing is you rate Lewis around 12 all time which is where I rate him. Thing is I rate him there based on resume and how I think he'd do h2h against other heavys in history. Considering you don't rate ANY win of his and never think he would have beaten ANY heavyweight in history having him at 12 is another example of your logic re Lewis.
By the way when people start to ignore your "facts", after they have chopped them to shreds a dozen times in the past but can't be bothered to again, that doesn't signal agreement old son

[CiganoBoxer]

I would love to know what Tyson did in his career that surpassed Lewis career to get ATG status and Lewis doesn't !?
I like Tyson more to watch but on achievements i would not place him on merit higher than Lewis ...how could you as the fact is Lewis beat better fighters than Tyson did fact ..as someone else pointed out earlier Lewis s body of work is higher ...
Now we can all surmise what tyson would of been had he done this or that or if cuss would of been alive etc ..but the fact is he didn't did he ...
I like how atlas summed Tyson up once ..he said : A shooting star can be brilliant but its not great as true great stars last and Tyson's never did "

[GJC]

again you are wrong my old son... your claim that 99% of poster disagree with my take on Lewis but all you have to do is read the posts on this here topic to see that around 80% of posters are in total agreement with what i claim about Lewis in that he was hugely fortunate to be given the decision over Holyfield and that he beat a shell of Mike Tyson... so no one is ignoring "My Facts" as you claim, they are infact voicing their opinions which are the same opinions as i also have... so nice try GJC but again you fall short my friend, you never ever talk boxing on this forum all you seem to do is try to trip -up others and fail

Sonny you mistake apathy for agreement, I'm 100% confident that if you were to summarise your opinions on Lewis and put them to a vote your 80% would nose dive to 5%. As for my never discussing boxing I don't see where you are getting that from. I do pick you up on your more outrageous claims but I don't go around tripping people up as you put it

[madmadworld]

Lewis

He certainly did not have a glass jaw or he would have been put down a hell of a lot more and lost by tko/ko a lot more...

name any other real HW champ before him that had a weaker chin ?
both he and Wladimir have the weakest chins of all real HW champions i've ever seen.
they also have what i call scared as heck look on their faces when they are on.
and get ko'd when they don't.

[The_Demon]

I would love to know what Tyson did in his career that surpassed Lewis career to get ATG status and Lewis doesn't !?
I like Tyson more to watch but on achievements i would not place him on merit higher than Lewis ...how could you as the fact is Lewis beat better fighters than Tyson did fact ..as someone else pointed out earlier Lewis s body of work is higher ...
Now we can all surmise what tyson would of been had he done this or that or if cuss would of been alive etc ..but the fact is he didn't did he ...
I like how atlas summed Tyson up once ..he said : A shooting star can be brilliant but its not great as true great stars last and Tyson's never did "

Based on body of work Lewis eclipses Tyson,for a guy who is considered so great Tysons' resume is paper thin,its the fact that he was so exciting and explosive that people get sentimental about,im a huge fan of Tyson and his style but he was little more than a flash in the pan and never looked the same during his comeback,people need too remember he isnt some god

[Barn]

Heavywegiht.
1. Lewis
2. Holyfield
3. Tyson

P4P

1. Holyifeld
2. Lewis
3. Tyson

[Jim Jeffries]

name any other real HW champ before him that had a weaker chin ?
both he and Wladimir have the weakest chins of all real HW champions i've ever seen.
they also have what i call scared as heck look on their faces when they are on.
and get ko'd when they don't.

Floyd Patterson? You may have heard of him.

[RubenSonny]

Based on body of work Lewis eclipses Tyson,for a guy who is considered so great Tysons' resume is paper thin,its the fact that he was so exciting and explosive that people get sentimental about,im a huge fan of Tyson and his style but he was little more than a flash in the pan and never looked the same during his comeback,people need too remember he isnt some god

Care to elaborate...