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    #21
    An old thread, picked up again by davidjaan1982, I believe.
    And an interesting one.

    It’s a dark cloud on Ali’s legacy. It wasn’t necessary.
    But as I understand, Ali later regretted it.
    As most of us do, for actions we did in the past.

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      #22
      Ali was a master of phycological warfare. He also knew how to promote a fight.

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        #23
        Ali was not afraid of Frazier. He knew he could push his buttons and he did so to gain an advantage. His antics also greatly promoted his fights.

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          #24
          Ali had a mean streak and could be an *******.

          Plus there must have been some jealousy. Ali was banned from boxing and then Fraizer comes in and is the new champ and then beats him. Ali was used to having the spotlight and being the champ.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Vsec View Post
            He always teased and bragged against opponents, I know, but he went beyond calling people bears and rabbits with Frazier. I mean damn, did Frazier not help him during his 3 year exile? I never understood why he went so deep against Frazier. Was he just intimidated, trying to get into his head for the fight?
            Jout him up when Ali was broke..... I think..... I’m ****** and guessing. Clinging to the twisted fake nation of Islam beliefs,,,, real solid ****** men would never ever be ****** enough to call Elijah (***ish name) Mohammed a man of GOD...

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              #26
              Ali later said that he never meant the things he said, but it was just all to promote the fight. The more heated the hatred between two fighters gets, the more interest the fight generates from the public. Ali's antics helped break closed-circuit theater sales records (which have never been beaten to this day), and made both himself and Frazier a lot richer... but in the end, Ali got screwed-over by people he trusted, ending up a broke and damaged man.

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                #27
                Before his death Ali’s net worth was estimated as 80 million $.

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                  #28
                  Because I’m ignorant Ali got caught thinking his crap didn’t stink... one of my idols Frazier a class act supported Ali while he talked mad crazy about his inability to fight in a bad war... my uncles who died fighting...

                  I can’t tell you how bad I feel... as a ***... why GOD... my creator allows war, inhumanity daily... my wife... begs me just to not ebattle guys who are incapable and unworthy ....... I can’t step in the temple of the lord... my only GOD....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PEBBLES! View Post
                    - Called Ali, "Clay".
                    To be fair everyone called him Clay.
                    It wouldn't surprise me if at the time a lot of people
                    at first just saw the name change as a cheap gimmick.

                    Originally posted by PEBBLES! View Post

                    - Assaulted the mother of one of his sons.
                    Wasn't Ali a woman beater to?

                    Originally posted by PEBBLES! View Post

                    - Had relationships with racist and wealthy white businessmen from Alabama.

                    There's also the connection he had with that racist Alabama Sheriff, but I can't seem to remember the Sheriff's name and the article I read it from. Maybe someone who has read it will post here.
                    Evidence?

                    Or did you just make all this up to slander Frazier?


                    Originally posted by PEBBLES! View Post
                    Although Ali was pretty much a racist in the late 60's, early 70's and his betrayal of Malcolm X sickens me, .
                    What are you talking about?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                      Because I’m ignorant Ali got caught thinking his crap didn’t stink... one of my idols Frazier a class act supported Ali while he talked mad crazy about his inability to fight in a bad war... my uncles who died fighting...

                      I can’t tell you how bad I feel... as a ***... why GOD... my creator allows war, inhumanity daily... my wife... begs me just to not ebattle guys who are incapable and unworthy ....... I can’t step in the temple of the lord... my only GOD....
                      Zaroku breaks it down once again.

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