Did Hopkins beat Calzaghe

[Thread Stealer]

I scored it for Hopkins. As crappy as Hopkins's antics were, I just couldn't give Calzaghe enough rounds when he wasn't landing the clean blows (spare me the meaningless, inaccurate statistics known as Compubox).

[Obama]

Depends if you count slaps as landed punches.

It's a gray area for judging. Slaps are illegal. So if someone is slapping the referee is suppose to warn, penalize, or disqualify the guilty party. If he ignores it, the judges are to assume the punches are legal and score them...

[Toney616]

Depends if you count slaps as landed punches.

Im glad the dude lost for pulling crap like this

[sonnyboyx2]

Depends if you count slaps as landed punches.

It's a gray area for judging. Slaps are illegal. So if someone is slapping the referee is suppose to warn, penalize, or disqualify the guilty party. If he ignores it, the judges are to assume the punches are legal and score them...

very good points and JC slapped more against Hopkins than in any of his fights

[CiganoBoxer]

Go to Boxrec.

They have the result posted on their site.

Hopkins was on home soil,3 american judges and a very biased referee-if you drop a split decision under those circumstances,then you know you got beat

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[bklynboy]

Hopkins won 6 rounds decisively + the KO, a really bad decision IMO

I had Calzaghe winning clearly (forgot my round count). The reason is this: in all sports, no matter how good your defense you still need to score to win. The same holds true in boxing. Hopkins didn't score enough. The few times Hopkins opened up he landed the cleaner, more effective punches. BUT, as much as I wanted to give him the rounds he simply wasn't active enough compared to Calzaghe.

I wonder if those "tippy-tap" punches Calzaghe throws are harder than we think. If they were tippy-tap punches why didn't Hopkins and Jones walk through them and knock Calzaghe the f**k out?

[crold1]

Exaggerating that "low blow" was a pathetic move from Hopkins.

Could have gone either way in my opinion, but I had Hopkins ahead by 1 point because of the knockdown. 114-113.

The fight was no robbery, as B-Hop didn't do enough in the later rounds. But 116-111 on one of the scorecards was a little too wide in Calzaghe's favor.

Hopkins landed the cleaner blows and Calzaghe missed a lot of shots, but at least he was active enough to convince the judges.

That's the exact score I had it I think: 116-111. Calzaghe did more in the first half than some gave him credit for (lots of contact shots and he landed to the body all night...which is why Hopkins was so tired late). Calzaghe swept most of the second half of the fight and made Hopkins go thespian worse than he ever has because he was gassed. Round nine was the turning point to absolutely disgraceful behavior.

This is one of those fights where a minority of the general pop, and too many journos in love with Hopkins's 'style' the older man winning. The night of the decision, few were crying foul because it was pretty clear Calzaghe won.

He did. No brainer.

[Toney616]

Hopkins go thespian worse than he ever has because he was gassed. Round nine was the turning point to absolutely disgraceful behavior.

And the Oscar goes to......

[crold1]

RbR



Here was the RBR I did for CBZ the night of the fight:

Round One

Not an action packed round but Hopkins carries the day with a right hand at the halfway point...Hopkins leaned him forward, got him off balance qand landed a flush right...Joe not hurt but cautious from there.

Hopkins 10-8

Round Two

Slow, physical round...Calzaghe landed a couple low blows and landed more in the clinches...blocked the Hopkins right much better and landed a couple solid lefts.

Hopkins 19-18

Round Three

Another round of old school nasty...Hopkins walking Calzaghe into traps and lands some solid rights in the corner...calzaghe giving as good as he gets in the clinches...Close Hopkins round.

Hopkins 29-27

Round Four

Calzaghe lets his hands go more...eats some solid rights but lands a couple nice lefts down the stretch...fouls all over in the round with Cortez calling both to mid-ring to chastise. Narrow Calzaghe round.

Hopkins 38-37

Round Five
Rinse, repeat...Calzaghe just throwing more and landing more, even if he's not landing as hard...hard to credit Hopkins for trying to stop a fight breaking out.

Even 48-47

Round Six

Hopkins lands a nice left hook on the ropes but it sucks when you can count the pucnhes thrown or landed on hands...Calzaghe forcing the action...lots of slaps but they connect often enough...Calzaghe flurries to end the frame.

Even 57-57

Round Seven

Calzaghe's most decisive based on landed shots but this isn't the U.S. debut he wanted...It is the Hopkins we all know...Calzaghe almost dropped at the bell with a counter right that caught him on the heels.

Calzaghe 67-66

Round Eight

Read the last few rounds...same thing...oddly entertaining show...[punchstats say Cal has doubled Hopkins up in lands and connects.

Calzaghe 77-75

Round Nine

Cal's best round and this is getting to be a rout...he's got Hopkins timed and is countering with short hooks when he's not leading.

Calzaghe 87-84

Round Ten

And the oscar goes to X...close round and best of the fight...X was looking tired but used a side fist slap to the top of the cup to buy five minutes to freshen up and proceeds to let his hands go for the first time in ages...May have stolen the frame.

Calzaghe 96-94

Round Eleven

Hopkins claims another foul but Cortez says BS and we get the best action of the bout...Calzaghe just throwing and landing more in another Joe round.

Calzaghe 106-103

Round Twelve

Calzaghe comes forward winging...Hopkins throws too early and then mauls down the stretch looking to steal the round with steps rather than punches...Easy Joe round.

Calzaghe 116-112 on the Cliff Rold card

Now to the cards that count...

114-113 Hopkins (Adelaide Byrd and FOR SHAME)
115-112 Calzaghe
116-111 Calzaghe

[Kid McCoy]

I think Calzaghe deserves more credit for that win than he gets, seeing as it was sandwiched between two of Hopkins' most celebrated performances against Tarver and Pavlik. He looked excellent against them but couldn't get much going against Calzaghe.

I gave Hopkins the first three rounds and Calzaghe all but one of the rest. Some of Hopkins' antics were pathetic for a self-proclaimed legend (even going down from a low blow when Calzaghe hadn't thrown a punch!) and would have shamed the past fighters he likes to compare himself to.