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    #11
    Originally posted by Die Antwoord View Post
    Would be KO1'ed by any top Heavyweight today. Sure he beat a 55 year old Joe Louis, and he beat Jersey Joe, but so did losing record fighter Johnny Allen. Tiger Jack Fox also beat Jersey Joe...not to be confused with Tiger Red Fox or any of the other Tigers Jersey Joe Walcott fought. No way is he a top 100 HW. What were his accomplishments at HW? Beating an old Joe Louis?

    Ezzard Charles lost to Young Jack Johnson, imagine what would have happened if he had to face Actual Jack Johnson.
    this isn't how we evaluate the greatness of past fighters

    he is probably a top 40 heavyweight

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      #12
      Originally posted by LeTombeur View Post
      as I said, you're a joke because you posted an understatement

      to say Ezzard Charles, who is largely considered to be the best LHW of AT and who is highly ranked in 3 weight classes, to say that man was ''very good'', this is like saying Albert Einstein was very intelligent

      you would have been better off not posting at all in this thread

      and you have been exposed in that other thread (not the first time you get exposed either)

      I never ever talk about fights I haven't seen
      He was very very good. Or do you think very very very good?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Holtol View Post
        He was very very good. Or do you think very very very good?
        he was great

        Vernon Forrest was very good
        Vargas was very good

        does Charles deserve to be compared to Forrest and Vargas ? the words one choses are important

        saying a great fighter was very good, that's an understatement, it doesn't make sense

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          #14
          Originally posted by LeTombeur View Post
          he was great

          Vernon Forrest was very good
          Vargas was very good

          does Charles deserve to be compared to Forrest and Vargas ? the words one choses are important

          saying a great fighter was very good, that's an understatement, it doesn't make sense
          Average = C

          good = B

          very good = A

          very very good = A+

          I don't see your problem to be honest. Maybe a small technicality,nothing to have a stroke over.

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            #15
            he was excellent. Had such masterful control of all of his punches had great form and could throw any combination perfectly. If your teaching your son how to box, you show him some Ezzard Mack Charles footage.

            Greatest lightweight, top 20 middle weight and possibly top 10 or 15 heavyweight. He also could cut as you can see in his 2nd marciano fight. If MArciano didnt KO him, Marciano could have lost his nose.

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              #16
              Originally posted by LeTombeur View Post
              this isn't how we evaluate the greatness of past fighters

              he is probably a top 40 heavyweight
              give me a laugh and name the 40 heavyweights you rate above Charles

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                #17
                Charles was a great boxer. I prefer to rank him as a ATG light heavy rather than heavy because the victory over Louis came long after Louis's prime and also the losses to Marciano and Walcott(and Holman) but his career as a light heavyweight was brilliant.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                  give me a laugh and name the 40 heavyweights you rate above Charles
                  I see I did a mistake here, I thought I wrote top 20

                  anyway...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by LeTombeur View Post
                    I see I did a mistake here, I thought I wrote top 20

                    anyway...
                    yeah you cry "Mistake" when your called to answer the crap you spew out on a daily basis

                    Don't forget to put me on your ignore list as the more i read of your comments the less i want to read them or engage you in discussion

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      yeah you cry "Mistake" when your called to answer the crap you spew out on a daily basis

                      Don't forget to put me on your ignore list as the more i read of your comments the less i want to read them or engage you in discussion
                      sounds like something you do agenda man

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