Would of De La Hoya Been A ATG Lightweight?

[DET. IRONSIDE]

I can think of three guys off the top of my head that would have whipped his ass at that weight.

Morales, Barrera and Marquez.

[BigStereotype]

He LOSS to TITO, RAN for his life, or get KTFO... Smaller SSM, PBF, and PACQUIAO whipped the living **** out of him.

Do you ever actually think about what you say? He clearly beat Tito. Yes, the track meet he put on for the last two rounds were shameful, but he obviously won at least 8 of the first ten rounds. Tito couldn't hit him. Shane beat him in one razor-sharp decision and then got handed a gift in their second fight. The PBF fight was a split decision so I don't know where you're getting the "whipped the living **** out of him." Pac destroyed him, but he was old and weight drained there. I'm not an Oscar nuthugger. I think he's awesomely overrated by the general public, but idiots like you give him too much flack. He could box, had a solid chin and a lot of power.

[Suckmedry]

Mosley might have beaten him. And he would have gotten a tough fight off Floyd. But yeah, he would have been one of the best ever. He was a big, big LW with reach and power plus boxing skills.

[bojangles1987]

I can think of three guys off the top of my head that would have whipped his ass at that weight.

Morales, Barrera and Marquez.

None of those three could beat Oscar at lightweight.

[StarshipTrooper]

He LOSS to TITO, RAN for his life, or get KTFO... Smaller SSM, PBF, and PACQUIAO whipped the living **** out of him.

And he's still your hero???????

delahoja was the ATG con man, money stealing FRAUD that ever lived. Made more money than anyone in the history of boxing, and didn't bust a single g****. Lost every big fight he ever had. Even little guys beat him up. SSM. PBF. PAC-MAN. ATG? Not for his fighting ability. But as a money maker? (like a hoe) Truly an ALL TIME GREAT!!!!!

delahoto was the biggest and richest drag queen that boxing has ever had!!! AN ALL TIME GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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These are perfect candidates for deletion by the mod. That sort of crap belongs in NSB not Boxing History.

Poet

[Obama]

DLH peaked at WW. Guy was never going to be able to stay at LW, the growing was inevitable. And quite frankly it's a myth that he was this monster at LW. He went through hell against John John Molina (Harold Lederman had Molina winning the fight), and Genaro Hernandez (who came up from SFW for this fight alone) gave him a boxing lesson until he broke his nose. I had Genaro sweeping the first 3 rounds.

His chances are worse of being an ATG LW than being an ATG WW. Had he stayed at Welterweight he would have had to fight Vernon Forrest. He loses. So his WW resume then consists of getting gifts against Whitaker & Quartey along with losing to Tito and Forrest. All this is while he's still prime, Mayweather and Pacquiao come and beat him later at the weight. Not exactly ATG material. And while the Pacquiao beating can be completely forgiven, he still had a lot left against Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather does a lot better at WW since he'd only be outweighed by 7-10 lbs as opposed to over 15.

To be honest Oscar maximized his greatness by doing the weight division jumps. p4p he rates better than he ever was going to rate in 1 division. Matchmaking is a beautiful thing. Same could be said of Pacquiao but that's another conversation...

[DET. IRONSIDE]

None of those three could beat Oscar at lightweight.

The only guy I'd worry about not beating DLH at 135 would be Marquez as he has put on weight.

Barrera and Morales didn't make most of their wins at 135, thats for sure, but they would have beaten De La Hoya. No doubt in my mind. Neither had a problem making the weight aand neither would have been too phased by Oscar. He probably knew Erik quite well, visiting Tijuana as a child.

I'm with *****'s point about weight and the point above about jumping between divisions.

[mrboxer]

Lets say Oscar stays at 135lb and can make the weight heathly. Does he become a ATG at the weight, and would of he been beaten?

yes,he had the body than can accommodate a lighter or heavier weight and the ability to train and keep a hight level of performance at the weights,at lightweight if oscar fought duran,duran would of been kayoed within the first round,oscar would of peppered duran with hard combos and duran would of hit the canvas face first in similar fashion as when he got brutally kayoed by devastating knockout by hearns,

[r.burgundy]

DLH peaked at WW. Guy was never going to be able to stay at LW, the growing was inevitable. And quite frankly it's a myth that he was this monster at LW. He went through hell against John John Molina (Harold Lederman had Molina winning the fight), and Genaro Hernandez (who came up from SFW for this fight alone) gave him a boxing lesson until he broke his nose. I had Genaro sweeping the first 3 rounds.

His chances are worse of being an ATG LW than being an ATG WW. Had he stayed at Welterweight he would have had to fight Vernon Forrest. He loses. So his WW resume then consists of getting gifts against Whitaker & Quartey along with losing to Tito and Forrest. All this is while he's still prime, Mayweather and Pacquiao come and beat him later at the weight. Not exactly ATG material. And while the Pacquiao beating can be completely forgiven, he still had a lot left against Mayweather. Furthermore Mayweather does a lot better at WW since he'd only be outweighed by 7-10 lbs as opposed to over 15.

To be honest Oscar maximized his greatness by doing the weight division jumps. p4p he rates better than he ever was going to rate in 1 division. Matchmaking is a beautiful thing. Same could be said of Pacquiao but that's another conversation...

we know he peaked at ww.the question assumes that he would have been able to peak lw.he was very young at that weight,so assuming he continued to progress in skill and experience and he had no trouble making weight,based off what he was able to accomplish at ww he wouldve been a dominant lw

thats not true at all.majority of oscars toughest fights were at 47.at ww he only lost to decisively to mosley.and he fought absolutely everybody of his era.forrest wasnt a viable option when oscar was dominating and i think oscar wouldve k.od forrest

[Obama]

we know he peaked at ww.the question assumes that he would have been able to peak lw.he was very young at that weight,so assuming he continued to progress in skill and experience and he had no trouble making weight,based off what he was able to accomplish at ww he wouldve been a dominant lw

thats not true at all.majority of oscars toughest fights were at 47.at ww he only lost to decisively to mosley.and he fought absolutely everybody of his era.forrest wasnt a viable option when oscar was dominating and i think oscar wouldve k.od forrest

Quartey beat DLH just as convincingly as Mosley did. But the question is ultimately bogus. You're talking about an underdeveloped DLH at LW. In order for him to fully develop he'd have to move up in weight. And quite frankly he was not a very tough fighter at LW. The way Mosley beat him at 147 is only amplified at 135. Mosley may even get the KO.

And in no way does Oscar beat Forrest, much less KO him.