Did you lose any respect for him that night?
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He had no shot at winning and he knew it. Why waste the time and risk being hurt in the ring if you're in no condition to fight?
I wish Clottey would have said no mas before the fight with Pacquiao started. No mas is better than a crappy fight. -
He wasn't taking any punishment and the scorecards were close. On one of the judge's scorecards, he was only trailing by one point.Originally posted by CarlosG815 View PostComment
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He was being made to look like a fool and was terribly winded. He could not land on Sugar and Sugar was hitting him at will and taunting him. He had no chance.Originally posted by stylewise View PostComment
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So you refuse to acknowledge the fact that the scorecards were very close and there were 7 more rounds left?Originally posted by CarlosG815 View PostComment
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I have never seen the second fight, only highlights. So I honestly don't know how close the fight was.
Duran was a very prideful man, and he seemed to treat boxing like his job and liked to keep things professional (for the most part). With that sort of mentality, I think it really got to him with Ray's excessive taunting and avoiding to fight rugged in that fight like the first (from what I heard). I think it just really got to him, and because he was so prideful, he wanted to walk out with a middle-finger in the air aimed at Ray.
Just what I think anyone, take it with a grain of salt.Comment
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duran was not a quitter, but thats what happens when a bully is getting played.
but he should have fouled out instead of quitting. he is still a ATG.Comment
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Since when have score cards ever been accurate? Have you even watched the fight?Originally posted by stylewise View PostComment
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In a way, yes. For me personally though, he made up for it ten times over. Lots of greats quit when they are tired of the game. Ray Leonard, and before anyone starts to talk about this being an excuse it is not, was young, super motivated, prime etc etc and Duran had won his biggest fight, been to the top of the highest peak and had nothing to fight for anymore.
Carlos Eleta said it best after the first fight. He had nothing left to be angry about. How do you train an averaged sized ATG lightweight to be such a madman that he can beat a big ATG WW? Well, in just about every case you can't but he was angry enough and motivated enough to come in at his peak condition, something which hadn't happened for a while at 147.
He had the super rage. In the second fight he would have probably still beat 95% of WW's but not Ray Leonard, not that night, not in that condition.
He had already achieved everything possible and was finally satisfied. He himself talks about cramps and what, and other people say it was a fix, others say something else. But, he had beaten everyone, achieved everything and shoved everyone's face in the dirt for the last and ultimate time. First it was Marcel, then Buchanan, then De Jesus II and III, then Palomino and finally Ray Leonard, the ultimate prize in boxing and the hyped media pretty boy whom he hated.
After that, it was done. He wasn't going to get up once again for that type of effort. He had nothing to truly achieve again. He had already done it and was just going through the motions. The reason I say this is because he was coming in fat, flat, out of shape and looking tired of it all before the first fight.
When you've been doing it your entire life, every day, every year for two or three times as long as your younger, bigger, more motivated opponents....It just becomes something you stop caring about after a while. Like anything. You can't keep getting up for superhuman efforts. It happened to Ray, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Robinson, Chavez, Ali, Louis.....It's happened to them all. He should have kept fighting (that goes without saying) and on any other night would have, but it was just all too much for too long. You know?Comment
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