Todays Super-Sized Heavyweights what are your thoughts

[sonnyboyx2]

This is the last response i will ever make to your posts

i love destroying clowns like you on this forum.. now go back to NSB where you belong and where you can argue your playground mentality of "My brother is bigger than your brother".. which is the only case you have to offer on the subject.

[Joeyzagz]

The Klitschkos are great boxers for their size.

I am between 6'5 and 6'7 myself, and I know first hand how difficult it is to master speed, agility and coordination at that size. This is why I voted Lennox as being more talented than Patterson...Its a lot tougher for big men to move like that...

Vitali and Wlad are all-time greats, but the era they exist in is absolute garbage.

[sonnyboyx2]

The Klitschkos are great boxers for their size.

I am between 6'5 and 6'7 myself, and I know first hand how difficult it is to master speed, agility and coordination at that size. This is why I voted Lennox as being more talented than Patterson...Its a lot tougher for big men to move like that...

Vitali and Wlad are all-time greats, but the era they exist in is absolute garbage.

almost every post you make you bring in Lennox Lewis and to say he is more skilled than Floyd Patterson is laughable... against who did Lewis show these great skills you claim he has.. tell me so that i can go away and watch that fight.

Wlad & Vitali are not ATGs and the only reason you are claiming they are ATGs is to improve the standing of Lennox Lewis who never beat anyone of worth..

i watched Wlad vs Peter on saturday night which inspired me to start this particular thread, Wlad was terrible and to claim the guy is an ATG makes you look silly, Wlad & Vitali are in the same league as Carnera & Willard no better no worse, they are cumbersome, slow, overweight behemoths.. i am not and never have been a David Haye fan but i strongly believe he will destroy both Klitschko's fairly easily after watching their last fights.

[sonnyboyx2]

The Klitschkos are great boxers for their size.

I am between 6'5 and 6'7 myself, and I know first hand how difficult it is to master speed, agility and coordination at that size. This is why I voted Lennox as being more talented than Patterson...Its a lot tougher for big men to move like that...

Vitali and Wlad are all-time greats, but the era they exist in is absolute garbage.

load of rubbish.. How come the Klitschko's are nothing remotely in terms of skill, speed, agility anything like Rid**** Bowe who measures up to them in size or Lennox Lewis.

[StarshipTrooper]

you lost all credibility with the mosquito like jab comment. Im no boxing historian and not a Wlad fan either but to act like Wlad doesnt have a great jab shows you have a bias.

Wlad paws with his jab too much for it to be great. I think the problem is that Heavyweight jabs have been so poor in recent years that Wlad's jab looks great by comparison. Watch a prime Larry Holmes to see a great jab: He sticks it rather than paws with it.

Don't mind this Robert guy. He says weightlifting is bad for a boxer in the training section, I just stopped reading there.

Until relatively recently no trainer worth his salt would allow his fighter to lift weights. The reason is that lifting weights kills your reflexes (which is the most important physical trait to a fighter) and the added muscle bulk erodes your stamina. Weight lifting has only relatively recently become a part of a fighter's training regime and it still isn't universally accepted.

that's true, but a shorter more explosive fighter even in his victories will always have problems with ringwise tall fighters who know how to control range with their longer frame.

if you're a short guy, and we're talking about heavyweights here in particular, you better focus on working the body, too many guys are head hunters out there.

How's this for a shock? I actually partially agree with you about something. I see height as being irrelivant but I believe you're dead on about reach being the most significant physical asset in boxing.

You are also quite correct about boxers today not going to the body as they should especially when their reach dictates that that's where they SHOULD be going. I guess body punching isn't "***y". Even Tyson wasn't a body puncher and I believe he would have been a better fighter if he had mounted consistant body attacks. He would do it on occasion, but could never resist the urge to resume headhunting as soon as possible.

Poet

[Uturn]

Have to disagree about the Willard comments here. As much as I dislike the brothers, Willard would get his head knocked off by Wladimar. How can you say his jab is weak? It's absolutely solid, ranks up there with one of best jabs in the heavyweight division of all time.

[sonnyboyx2]

Have to disagree about the Willard comments here. As much as I dislike the brothers, Willard would get his head knocked off by Wladimar. How can you say his jab is weak? It's absolutely solid, ranks up there with one of best jabs in the heavyweight division of all time.

you aint see many heavyweights then coz Wlad's jab is nothing more than a paw its a distraction not a lethal weapon, it may well be a heavy jab but its not a great jab and its certainly not one of the best jabs in history..What fights of Jess Willard have you seen?

[sonnyboyx2]

i dont hug anyone, all of the guys you've mentioned did not have the skill or talent of either Klitschko, you recognize that talent in a big guy like Lewis but you wont give Wladimir his due so i will call you out on it. On the other hand i dont really care what you think, like i said before you watch boxing through the eyes of someone who writes cartoons for a living.

Tony Tucker was vastly more talented than Wlad Klitschko and Lewis was on a different planet to him, The Wlad i watched on saturday night would not last 4rds with the 1990s Lewis... You mentioned Wlad's Jab but from what i seen it was nothing special.. i suggest you go and watch the video that TheGreatA posted on my thread about James`Buster`Douglas to see what a brilliant jab is all about and dont try and tell me that Wlad would beat him coz Big Bus would take him apart with ease.