Dirtiest Fighter Ever?

[Toney616]

Jack Dempsey & Muhammad Ali deserve a mention.

Ali was damned dirty as well, he was constantly pulling down on the back of his opponents neck

[JAB5239]

Too much 'hatin' on mah boy,the Holy one,in this thread.I tend to think the foul play on Holyfield's part has been a little exaggerated over the last ten years or so.I've never really noticed his "butting" in fights.Perhaps he just really crafty like that.


I think in terms of blatant 'ball busting' and 'leading with the head',Joe Frazier definately deserves a mention.


Nobody loved 'bustin dem balls' the way good old "smokin" Joe did.

See, this is how you shoot your own credibility in the foot. Show me one instance of Frazier being dirty and I'll show you three for Evander. Wanna bet sigs, bans or e-points?

[prinzemanspopa]

See, this is how you shoot your own credibility in the foot. Show me one instance of Frazier being dirty and I'll show you three for Evander. Wanna bet sigs, bans or e-points?

I never denied Holy's dirty deeds.All I said was that his "butting" offences have been a little exaggerated,in my view.And that I hadn't really noticed them in fights like so many others seem to do.


Perhaps I was too busy watching the the brilliance of the Holy one to pay attention.



With simple,plain fighters like Frazier,it's alot easier to take notice of their infractions.

[Stone Roses!]

People are mentioning Ali?



You might aswell add Joe Frazier to the list of dirty fighters cause I have yet to see any fighter lean with his head as much as Joe did.

People were absolutely raged that Andre Ward was fighting dirty against Allen Green, with his head pressed against his chest, well that was Joe Frazier's entire career encased in a nutshell.

[BigStereotype]

People are mentioning Ali?



You might aswell add Joe Frazier to the list of dirty fighters cause I have yet to see any fighter lean with his head as much as Joe did.

People were absolutely raged that Andre Ward was fighting dirty against Allen Green, with his head pressed against his chest, well that was Joe Frazier's entire career encased in a nutshell.

Ali was great, but he was dirty like few others. I was waiting for him to get brought up, actually. He would hold behind the head, thumb eyes, all sorts of nasty tricks.

[NChristo]

I know Joe Frazier used to punch his opponents hips too slow them down, haven't seen too many if any of him "bustin dem balls" though.

[frankenfrank]

Ali was great, but he was dirty like few others. I was waiting for him to get brought up, actually. He would hold behind the head, thumb eyes, all sorts of nasty tricks.

Also thumb eyes ? not that i m arguing , but in which fights ?
Now he really starts 2 seem dirty :
Holyfield , Tyson , Ali , Lewis , McCall . Half of my top 10 are dirty .
But none was as dirty as Hopkins.
Lewis and McCall at least ere less dirty than the others I mentioned , correct me if I'm wrong.

[BigStereotype]

Also thumb eyes ? not that i m arguing , but in which fights ?
Now he really starts 2 seem dirty :
Holyfield , Tyson , Ali , Lewis , McCall . Half of my top 10 are dirty .
But none was as dirty as Hopkins.
Lewis and McCall at least ere less dirty than the others I mentioned , correct me if I'm wrong.

I remembered someone bitching about it from Facing Ali, and you see him hold the guys head and nail the hell out of him with the side of his glove. It makes sense, but I'm pretty sure it was Ernie Terrell, so I would understand if there was a little resentment there haha.

[Toney616]

I remembered someone bitching about it from Facing Ali, and you see him hold the guys head and nail the hell out of him with the side of his glove. It makes sense, but I'm pretty sure it was Ernie Terrell, so I would understand if there was a little resentment there haha.

Yeah, it was Ernie Terrel. It all happened becuse he had dared to call Ali by his "slave" name. Im going to take it that Ali doesnt know much about history as well

[frankenfrank]

Yes , Jack Dempsey deserves a mention , but how many here saw his low blow hook combo against Jack Sharkey ?
And someone tell me about Ali's use of the thumbs.