List Your Top 30 Greatest Heavyweights (176+ Unlimited Weight) Of All Time

[StarshipTrooper]

This is for the LEGITIMATE boxing efficinados (ie. all the people Frankenfrank put on ignore); and unlike his thread there is no cherry picking based on weight obsession, current era worshipping, and nuthugging of Eastern-Euro fighters. List them Gentleman! I know you can come up with a better list :cool9:

Poet

[Vadrigar.]

The phoney thread has now been crushed!

[StarshipTrooper]

The phoney thread has now been crushed!

And the beauty of it is, just like he's blocking people from HIS thread he's blocked from this one :grin9:

Poet

[Vadrigar.]

And the beauty of it is, just like he's blocking people from HIS thread he's blocked from this one :grin9:

Poet

ahh nice move. We need to seal the woodwork so no more trolls can creep out.

[StarshipTrooper]

ahh nice move. We need to seal the woodwork so no more trolls can creep out.

None of the trolls listed in my sig can post in here :grin9:

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

For the record, here's my own list:

1-12

01. Muhammad Ali
02. Joe Louis
03. Jack Johnson
04. Jack Dempsey
05. Larry Holmes
06. Sonny Liston
07. Evander Holyfield
08. George Foreman
09. Rocky Marciano
10. Mike Tyson
11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills


13-30 (in no particular order)

Max Baer
Rid**** Bowe
James Corbett
George Godfrey
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis
Sam McVey
Billy Miske
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
Max Schmeling
Earnie Shavers
John L. Sullivan
David Tua
Jersey Joe Walcott

[Vadrigar.]

For the record, here's my own list:

1-12

01. Muhammad Ali
02. Joe Louis
03. Jack Johnson
04. Jack Dempsey
05. Larry Holmes
06. Sonny Liston
07. Evander Holyfield
08. George Foreman
09. Rocky Marciano
10. Mike Tyson
11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills


13-30 (in no particular order)

Max Baer
Rid**** Bowe
James Corbett
George Godfrey
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis
Sam McVey
Billy Miske
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
Max Schmeling
Earnie Shavers
John L. Sullivan
David Tua
Jersey Joe Walcott

Great list. I find it interesting you put Liston ahead of Frazier. I think Frazier is greater because he beat Muhammad ALi, whereas Liston lost to him twice.

What do you think?

[righthook10]

For the record, here's my own list:

1-12

01. Muhammad Ali
02. Joe Louis
03. Jack Johnson
04. Jack Dempsey
05. Larry Holmes
06. Sonny Liston
07. Evander Holyfield
08. George Foreman
09. Rocky Marciano
10. Mike Tyson
11. Joe Frazier
12. Harry Wills


13-30 (in no particular order)

Max Baer
Rid**** Bowe
James Corbett
George Godfrey
Peter Jackson
Joe Jeannette
James Jeffries
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis
Sam McVey
Billy Miske
Ken Norton
Floyd Patterson
Max Schmeling
Earnie Shavers
John L. Sullivan
David Tua
Jersey Joe Walcott

How come you have Wills, Jeannette and McVey, but no Langford?

[StarshipTrooper]

Great list. I find it interesting you put Liston ahead of Frazier. I think Frazier is greater because he beat Muhammad ALi, whereas Liston lost to him twice.

What do you think?

I figure that prime for prime Liston was the better fighter. The actual IRL fights unfortunately weren't prime on prime matchups: Liston was past-prime against Ali and Ali was past-prime against Frazier. It makes a difference. That being said, Frazier's effort in the first fight with Ali was truly one of those special performances: It would have been VERY difficult (though not impossible) for any ATG Heavyweight to beat Frazier that night; and when you consider that a past-prime Ali STILL beats most in-prime ATGs it puts it into perspective. It was one of those special performances that we get to see maybe once a decade.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

How come you have Wills, Jeannette and McVey, but no Langford?

I only rank fighters in one weight class and I have Langford at Middleweight.

Poet