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[frankenfrank]

I think you've displayed your side of the argument superbly..
It's true, Jones acted like a pop star.. He had Don King in his pocket, making greedy one-sided demands to make a mockery of the whole mandatory system.. The lists you submitted earlier highlights the proof of this perfectly.. In fact, with the exception of the 'money' fight against Calzaghe and the battering of Clinton Woods, Jones never fought any Europeans whatsoever!.. Most of his defenses being in the US against fellow American's and Canadians, most of whom were either washed up or fairly limited to say the least..

No, i'm with you on this one Bat..
Top marks to Paulie too, who's put his point across very well, but Jones is the loser in this debate i'm afraid..

Although, i believe Jones would have destroyed the majority of the guys he priced out of it, two names come to mind when you think of explosiveness.. Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan.. Both of these guys had all the ingredients needed to upset Jones, and there is no way he avoided them for financial reasons either.. This is echoed by the fact, that he never once fought anyone quite like them.. Well with the exception of Danny Green that is.. Even though Roy's 41 & Green's a poor-mans version of the other 2, it just goes to show you what could'a happened.. Julian Jackson was also hovering about back then, but Roy wanted none of him either..
Sorry, but i have to say that RJJ's resume below 175 does appear to be a triffle padded..

padded indeed.
you can also add Eubanks who may have caused him problems as well
and also remember : the perpetual water in corners in Roy Jones fights ,
fighting Toney only when it was obvious toney could no longer stay at 168 and never fighting him before or after it , fighting much older smaller fighters as was the cases with : Pazienza , McCallum , Vaca ,
he wanted none of jackson but he did indeed seek a fight with Terry Norris .

[frankenfrank]

Whats the story with Bhop and the guys in this list?

he did not fight them despite being some of the best contenders / champions at the time of his reign. and they were even americans as well , no need to travel overseas , it's not as if i accused him of ducking ottke , erdei , etc.

[General Zod]

he did not fight them despite being some of the best contenders / champions at the time of his reign. and they were even americans as well , no need to travel overseas , it's not as if i accused him of ducking ottke , erdei , etc.

When Hopkins got his hands on a belt, McClellan and McCallum had already moved up. Jacksons career was coming to an end, I dont know much about Reggie Johnson so I cant comment.

[General Zod]

padded indeed.
you can also add Eubanks who may have caused him problems as well
and also remember : the perpetual water in corners in Roy Jones fights ,
fighting Toney only when it was obvious toney could no longer stay at 168 and never fighting him before or after it , fighting much older smaller fighters as was the cases with : Pazienza , McCallum , Vaca ,
he wanted none of jackson but he did indeed seek a fight with Terry Norris .

Eubank wasnt interested in unifying the belts, Im not sure what happened with the Benn fight, all I know is that Benn wanted that fight, same with Collins. As for Toney he did throw away a lot of his years after the Jones fight so I dont know when that could of been viable again. It would of helped if he stayed in the LHW divison. Not sure what happened with a Liles fight I heard it was due to him being signed with King.

[frankenfrank]

Eubank wasnt interested in unifying the belts, Im not sure what happened with the Benn fight, all I know is that Benn wanted that fight, same with Collins. As for Toney he did throw away a lot of his years after the Jones fight so I dont know when that could of been viable again. It would of helped if he stayed in the LHW divison. Not sure what happened with a Liles fight I heard it was due to him being signed with King.

PP , is that you ?

[General Zod]

PP , is that you ?

Nah, sorry dude you got me confused with someone else, lol

[frankenfrank]

Nah, sorry dude you got me confused with someone else, lol

so no breast feeding in your avatar ?

[General Zod]

so no breast feeding in your avatar ?

Im a member of that other forum as well which is where I saw pp's cool avatar pic, slightly edited as you can see.

[Emon723]

Larry Holmes ducked Greg Page in '83
Michael Spinks ducked Tony Tucker in '87 to take a more meaningful fight in Gerry Cooney.
James Toney was scared to fight Julian Jackson in '92, instead of unifying the belts, he moved up to 168 to faced Iran Barkley.

[General Zod]

James Toney was scared to fight Julian Jackson in '92, instead of unifying the belts, he moved up to 168 to faced Iran Barkley.

I find this hard to believe. Where did you hear that from?