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    #11
    Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


    These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.

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      #12
      i think wlad is allready a top 10 heavyweight.

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        #13
        Neither Klitschko is worthy of the top 20 at the moment. With a piss poor resume, losses matter more than they would otherwise. And losing by KO always hurts worse than losing by decision.

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          #14
          Unforunately they have had very few fights that really tested them due to the weak era of HW's.
          When they have been asked questions they haven't answered them too well.
          I guess the only fight that might lift their respective resumes is against each other unfortunately that seems unlikely.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
            Both are two excellent heavyweights. That said I ticked the bottom box because I can think of 20 more all time heavyweights who I fear are better.

            Thats not to say that either or both could give the best in history a tough night on their best showing.
            "I can think of 20 more all time heavyweights who I fear are better."


            So what???
            You think Patterson,Dempsey,Liston and Jeffries would have beat the Klits??
            Def not.
            A lot of old ATG are overrated,especially in the heavyweight division.
            Modern heavies like Lewis and the klits are underated.
            Jack Johnson get dropped by Ketchel,a middleweight and koed by Willard,a bum.I trouble to call Willard an athlete.

            I have Lewis top 5-10 easy,and Klits top 10-20 even maybe top 15-20.
            Vitali's war with Lewis is the classic.
            Vit's come back at 38 years old after a 4 years lay off against a 260 lbs powerhouse like Peter ain't no Mayweather cherrypicking Marquez 130 lbs ass.

            Except the 3 KOs,Wlad's career is outstanding,the HW division might be weak,but Wlad has ruined almost 70% of the top 30,the elite of the division.
            .

            But once again greatest isn't the best;because you cant compare eras,cuz there are different means....

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              #16
              Originally posted by donkim View Post
              Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


              These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.
              Real talk!!!

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                #17
                Vitali will go down as one of the best HW of all time. I don't think you can blame a fighter if they fight in an era where the HW division is not as packed with talent ala the 1970's. In addition, his only 2 losses were TKO's due to a bad eye and a shoulder injury, both of those fights he is was winning per the opinion of many.

                Wladimir has restored his career and showed he has a better chin than people give him credit for. But i don't regard him as a top 20 HW; unlike his brother.

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                  #18
                  well...

                  Originally posted by dagrtst View Post
                  They're the two best heavyweights in the world, right now, and they're likely going to stay at the top, for a while.

                  So where do you rank both the Klitschko's, at the moment, on an all-time level?
                  Surely top ten, especially Vitali. The list of boxers which could have beaten him while they were at their best form is really short, maybe Ali with a great strategy and maybe Tyson at his prime...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dagrtst View Post
                    They're the two best heavyweights in the world, right now, and they're likely going to stay at the top, for a while.

                    So where do you rank both the Klitschko's, at the moment, on an all-time level?
                    i rank them top in top 20...tbh i prefer Vitali to his brother wlad....

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by donkim View Post
                      Wladimir has lost to some fighters that he perhaps should never have lost to.Although to hold this against Wlad in both unfair and hypocritical.So many of these so called "ATG's" have many losses against opposition worse than the likes of Corrie Sanders and Lamon brewster.


                      These old historians(apologists) always claim that we shouldn't judge a fighter by his losses,rather his victories.Wladimir has fought virtually every single top heavyweight of his era,he is currently riding a an 11 ight winning streak and holds a record of 53 wins and only 3 losses.
                      do you like despise joe frazier or summit?? because u have a pic of oscar bonavena flooring him then u have a signature pic of george foreman flooring him and then it says "joe frazier honouring the running man"...joe frazier most probably along with liston had one of the best left hooks in history.

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