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Which past/present HW boxer could have beaten Lennox Lewis?

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    #21
    Holmes, Ali or Foreman.

    Ali and Holmes outjab him (ala Mercer/Bruno) once you take away Lewis jab its hard for him to work combinations. He doesn't tend to throw lead left hooks and right hands, usually textbook style with a good defence.

    When he has mental lapses he gets in trouble (McCall and Rahman) but when he doesn't hes one of the greats he's excellent. People point to those fights and say "everyone in the top 20" or whatever but thats wrong hes proven with wins over Holyfield, Vitali etc that he can take punches and win.

    Foreman might be able to walk him down and knock him out but Foreman could be outboxed so its a 50/50 fight. I don't think Tyson or Frazier would have beaten him Lewis uppercut was nasty, and he would never need to get in range to fire off the 1-2.

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      #22
      Originally posted by SirAuron View Post
      Seeing as we are talking about prime Lewis here is the list of top guys who can beat him

      Ali would win against lewis, who i doubt would cope well with Ali's speed and movement. Of course there is a chance Lewis imposes his size on Ali, or lands a ko shot.
      The one Liston, Foreman, Shavers, Lyle, Norton, Frazier etc could not land?

      I rate Lewis, but get real. He aint KOing Ali.

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        #23
        Originally posted by SirAuron View Post
        Seeing as we are talking about prime Lewis here is the list of top guys who can beat him

        Ali would win against lewis, who i doubt would cope well with Ali's speed and movement. Of course there is a chance Lewis imposes his size on Ali, or lands a ko shot.

        Foreman, I don't see winning against Lewis

        Frazier, could win, giving Lewis problems with his style, or it could look like Lewis v Tua as well.

        Louis, is think gets out-jabbed as does Holmes.

        Tyson, if Lewis weathers the storm would get stopped
        No way Lennox outjabs Holmes. NOBODY outjabs Holmes except maybe Liston and Lennox is no Sonny Liston in the jab department.

        Poet

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          #24
          Originally posted by capt_sam View Post
          The one Liston, Foreman, Shavers, Lyle, Norton, Frazier etc could not land?

          I rate Lewis, but get real. He aint KOing Ali.
          Little 170lb Cooper knocked Ali's block off, Ali was lucky he fell into the ropes and that he was saved by the bell when he got up.



          Had 250lbs Lewis landed the same shot Ali wouldn't have got up. Landing that shot is another thing entirely.

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            #25
            Originally posted by SirAuron View Post
            Little 170lb Cooper knocked Ali's block off, Ali was lucky he fell into the ropes and that he was saved by the bell when he got up.



            Had 250lbs Lewis landed the same shot Ali wouldn't have got up. Landing that shot is another thing entirely.
            well he did get straight back up from a monstrous frazier left hook.

            If we go back to the 1st round between Tyson and Lewis in 2002,Lewis looked stunned at Tyson's ferocity, and didn't know what to do.I feel that could have unfolded for 12 rounds at Tyson's peak.

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              #26
              Originally posted by SirAuron View Post
              Little 170lb Cooper knocked Ali's block off, Ali was lucky he fell into the ropes and that he was saved by the bell when he got up.



              Had 250lbs Lewis landed the same shot Ali wouldn't have got up. Landing that shot is another thing entirely.
              Maybe I'm wrong here, but wasn't Ali up at 3 vs Cooper?

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                #27
                Originally posted by SirAuron View Post
                Little 170lb Cooper knocked Ali's block off, Ali was lucky he fell into the ropes and that he was saved by the bell when he got up.



                Had 250lbs Lewis landed the same shot Ali wouldn't have got up. Landing that shot is another thing entirely.
                Henry`s Hammer was a far superior weapon than the right-hands of Rahman & McCall... Ali was immediately up after getting floored by Henry Cooper & Joe Frazier yet the referee could have counted to 100+ over Lewis when Rahman poleaxed him.... many have said on this subject about Lewis jab and Lewis uppercut, but who did Lewis KO with his uppercut? and was he not out-jabbed by Bruno, Mercer & Vitali...we also hear lots of quotes about how great Lennox Lewis was if he was `Focused`which again is rubbish.. the truth is that Lewis got poleaxed twice by mediocre journeymen something which never ever happened to ATGs like Foreman, Ali, Louis, Frazier, Patterson, Michael Spinks, Larry Holmes, Holyfield, Liston, Dempsey, Johnson, Tunney, Marciano nor was great contenders like Quarry or Lyle,

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