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    #21
    If Taylor had won the fight, he would probably have fought Camacho next, so he certainly wouldn't have gotten killed in the next fight.

    However, Taylor was clearly out when the fight was stopped. Though there were only a few seconds left in the bout, the rule is that the fighter can be saved by the bell, not that he can be saved before the bell.

    Of course I'm glad Chavez won since I'm a Chavez fan, but there's a reason for that. With all the work he did on Taylor in that fight, Chavez deserved the victory, despite all the great work that Taylor did as well.

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      #22
      Meldrick Taylor did nod his head. The ref didn't give him enough time to answer him the second time he asked if was he okay. Steele already had it in his head that he was going to stop the fight the first time he asked him. If you watch the fight without being biased you whould see that. I think Steele knew the final bell was about to sound, that's why he stopped it when he did.

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        #23
        A fighter can be out and still nod his head. Most fighters would even respond "I'm okay" by instinct. Taylor, on the other hand, did not. He was interviewed after the fight and said he did not even remember the two times Steele asked him if he was okay. He said that Steele didn't give him any kind of direction. Taylor was not focused enough to remember that if you get knocked down, the first thing to do after getting back up is to look at the ref and put your hands up. I think Steele made the right call. But if you'd like, you can complain all you want about Carlos Padilla.

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          #24
          Taylor could have, and whould have finshed the fight without taking any more damage if the fight had went on. There was not enough time left for either of them (Chavez or Taylor) to land a punch, whether the referee knew that or not, you have to admit that. The question is could Taylor continue, and Taylor certainly could have.

          It was the ref's mistake stoping the fight with 2 seconds left. He should've given Taylor time to respond the second time he asked him was he okay, but he didn't. By that time the fight whould've been over and Taylor whould have went on to win a slit decision.
          Last edited by gravity62; 05-12-2005, 11:16 PM.

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            #25
            Chavez vs. Taylor

            This was a great fight, somewhat cheapened by the way the stories changed with time. The night of the fight I saw it in a bar packed with Taylor fans and with no sound. Conservatively I gave Chavez the 2nd (hurt Taylor w/a hook), the 5th (hurt him again, also w/hook.???), the 8th, 10th, 11th and 12th. Many rounds were close, Taylor won others. I had Chavez leading after 11 and felt the KD (became ko) sealed the decision. One judge had Taylor by 8 points and was blasted in the boxing mags for being ******. All seemed to feel that it had been a tight bout and even those that had Taylor leading or thought the stop hasty recognized that it was the fates imposing justice. After the best are supposed to go 15- any doubts about who wins in 15? A couple years ago I purchased a copy of the tape of that fight and heard the call for the first time. I couldn't believe it was the same fight. Lampley gave what has become typical for him; a ridiculously slanted report on the action that ignores one fighter and constantly highlights the other. This may have been when he invented his signature move; making and crediting punches that either were never thrown or that missed. Watch the tape with no sound, and also try watching a randomly selected round or two in slo-mo. That reveals the subtlety of JCC's defense (remember how easy to hit he was said to be yet never got marked up?)and the accuracy and effectiveness of his punching.

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              #26
              It is true that if Taylor would have finished the fight he would have won by a split descision, but i doubt it would have made much difference to the overall path of Taylors career, he took a tremendous ammount of punishment that night and many argue he was never the same again.
              As to what happened after the knock down only Taylor and Steele will really know. Taylor appears to be looking at his corner and not at Richard Steele when he asks him if he wants to continue. If the fight had not been stopped purely due to the fact that there was only 2 seconds left in the round im sure there would be just as many people claiming Chavez was robbed as there are arguing for Taylor now, as you cannot be saved by the bell even in the last round.

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                #27
                Taylor got screwed big time, that Richard Steele..I hate him he sucks.

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                  #28
                  taylor was done after chavez put the presure on him chaves landed to many body shots that taylors punches were not hurting chaves and taylor was just moving his handes throwing baby punches but i got to give it to taylor he had a 12 round violation by pops the beating that chaves gave taylor was almost the end of his carer i dont remember taylor having any meanful fights after that

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                    #29
                    - -Perennial hot button!

                    The biggest fight I ever saw Steele blow was when uncle Rog stormed the ring that led to a riot trying to get at Zab after he fouled FloydBoy. Automatic DQ by the rules.

                    Fat Duva on the ring apron screaming on top of the fan cacophony erupting after the KD, another automatic DQ if not TKO, the only legit choices in the moment, so Steele is 1-1 in making spontaneous tough decisions under riotous conditions.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                      - -Perennial hot button!

                      The biggest fight I ever saw Steele blow was when uncle Rog stormed the ring that led to a riot trying to get at Zab after he fouled FloydBoy. Automatic DQ by the rules.

                      Fat Duva on the ring apron screaming on top of the fan cacophony erupting after the KD, another automatic DQ if not TKO, the only legit choices in the moment, so Steele is 1-1 in making spontaneous tough decisions under riotous conditions.
                      If you want to get technical about it Zab should have been disqualified for throwing a low blow followed immediately by a rabbit punch.

                      Why U support dirty cheats?

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