What fight did you watch recently/last night

[JAB5239]

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[Dynamite Kid]

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Wow cheers JAB.

Kessler vs Froch

Round 1 Froch( extremely close)

Not much in this round, Kessler landed some rights to
the body and scored with the jab a little, Froch however
scored with a left hook, cuffing right hand and was
a little more active, although this could easily be called even.

Round 2 Kessler
Not much in this round either, Kessler was touching
Froch upstairs and downstairs whilst Froch was a little inactive
and waiting, although he did seem to score at the end a little
, both rounds 1 & 2 were pick em rounds so i split the difference
and give them one each, as i do feel Froch may just! of edged
round 1 on the harder punches

Round 3 Froch

Froch started well with the jab but let Kessler come on mid
round as Kessler was able to touch him to the body, although
toward the end Froch put that left hook right hand together
and came alive down the stretch to score with the more solid
punches to punctuate the round imo

Round 4 Froch
Not much in the round early but mid round Froch landed
a solid right hand and then a lead uppercut that landed clean
, he also scored the jab toward the end, Kessler came back a little
but a Froch round for me.

Round 5 Froch
Clearest round of the fight to score, Froch landed a serious
of solid punches on Kessler, Froch landed those long reaching looping
shots

Round 6 Kessler (very close)

This was hard to score because Kessler was more aggressive
and consistent but also got caught by some solid shots himself,
he started the round landing the jab and he scored a good
combo to the stomach then landed a nice left hook on Froch
, but toward the end he was getting caught with a few solid shots
from Froch whilst applying that pressure, although he did trap
Froch on the ropes and scored another body attack, could of
gone either way but i like Kessler's consistency & aggression, oh
Kessler landed a nice right hand on Froch this round to.

Round 7 Kessler
Much better round for Kessler as he seemed to zero on better
with his accuracy, he was more active and scored a combo early
where he went downstairs and brought a right hand over the
top, he also landed a short inside left hook after that, Kessler
caught Froch again toward the end as he closed out the round
better and nailed Carl when he left himself off balance

Round 8 Kessler
Not much in the round early, although Kessler did land a nice
counter right hand but Froch seemed to score with the jab throughout
the middle portion of the round, however Kessler nailed him
with another counter right hand that hurt him, Kessler then
pinned him against the ropes and put his punches together

Round 9 Froch

Better round for Froch as he landed the jab and scored
with an uppercut early, toward the end he was nailing Kessler
with his wild **** that comes out out of left field

Round 10 Froch

Both answered each others attacked this round but Froch
managed to edge infront by landing the more solid
cleaner punches, he also got the best of Kessler in the exchanges imo.

Round 11 Kessler (tough round to score)

Kessler started well letting his hands go in combination
as he went downstairs with the combo then brought it back
up top, he was also consistent the whole round imo, Froch
nailed him mid round but he also nailed Froch with the biggest
punch of the round, a right hand, Froch came back toward the
end but i liked Kessler's consistency over the round, he sustained
his attack more imo.

Round 12 Kessler (very hard to score)
This round could of gone either way but i think what tipped
it was that Kessler landed more solid punches on Froch that
were also harder punches imo, he also closed the round out
right toward the end, Froch closed it out to but what was more
pivotal for me was that Kessler closed it out with like 10 seconds
to go, Froch did his best work 20 seconds before that.


I had it a draw but given the fact i made a note beside each of
the 3 rounds Kessler won on my card that each of those rounds were extremely
hard to score and could of gone either way and i only gave Froch the benefit of the
doubt in one round (round 1), then i guess you could say i was a little
bit kinder to Kessler and that, that should be a sign that Froch might have
slightly edged it, it was a very close fight to score though so maybe a draw was
a fair reflection.

I felt Kessler could of had more success if had he put more sustained pressure
on Froch, Froch is a guy that cant fight aswell going backward but he can cope to
a degree, particularly when you are not applying consistent sustained pressure, Kessler
was closing distance methodically imo, only in a few rounds did he really fight the kinda
fight im talking about and keep the pressure on Froch, he won those rounds clearer to
, now the reason i feel it would of benefited Kessler more to put more sustained
pressure on Froch is because Froch gets wide when pressure and does not have good
technique, he wings punches when pressure is put on him and leaves his chin out, that is why keeping the pressure on him would of worked wonders imo. Also i think maybe Froch's
workrate was so poor BECAUSE! he was backed up, he knew if he let hands go Boxing
off the backfoot that he would leave himself more exposed because he does not trust his
technique, therefore he played it safe and tried to pick his spots more although it worked
against him as he was too inactive a lot of the time.


Froch for his part should of been trying to back Kessler up and take advantage of him backing
up straight and followed him with those long looping shots, Kessler did a better job
of not going back straight but he still did it occasionally and paid for it when Froch
threw his wild long loopey punches.
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Angulo
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio (Angulo came on toward the end)
Angulo (close but Angulo was more consistent for me)
Joel Julio
Angulo (harder shots, although closish)
Angulo
Joel Julio

Angulo went back to walking in the front
door on Joel Julio he then timed a right hand over
the top of Julio's jab that dropped him, Julio
got up but ref waved it off.

Angulo still troubled be lateral movement, he was
reset by the movement and hit with quick fire combo's
from Julio, although toward the end his desperation turned
into more sustained pressure, great shot that finished it.

[1SILVA]

I don't post in this thread often, but I enjoy reading it. Im going to the comments and suggestions forum to suggest this thread have its own sticky. I would encourage anyone who posts in this thread or just enjoys reading it to support this idea. Im pretty sure DK will be on board. :-)

Good call, Jab. This is my favorite thread. Big shout out to Dynamite for creating this thread.

[1SILVA]

Wow cheers JAB.

Kessler vs Froch

Round 1 Froch( extremely close)

Not much in this round, Kessler landed some rights to
the body and scored with the jab a little, Froch however
scored with a left hook, cuffing right hand and was
a little more active, although this could easily be called even.

Round 2 Kessler
Not much in this round either, Kessler was touching
Froch upstairs and downstairs whilst Froch was a little inactive
and waiting, although he did seem to score at the end a little
, both rounds 1 & 2 were pick em rounds so i split the difference
and give them one each, as i do feel Froch may just! of edged
round 1 on the harder punches

Round 3 Froch

Froch started well with the jab but let Kessler come on mid
round as Kessler was able to touch him to the body, although
toward the end Froch put that left hook right hand together
and came alive down the stretch to score with the more solid
punches to punctuate the round imo

Round 4 Froch
Not much in the round early but mid round Froch landed
a solid right hand and then a lead uppercut that landed clean
, he also scored the jab toward the end, Kessler came back a little
but a Froch round for me.

Round 5 Froch
Clearest round of the fight to score, Froch landed a serious
of solid punches on Kessler, Froch landed those long reaching looping
shots

Round 6 Kessler (very close)

This was hard to score because Kessler was more aggressive
and consistent but also got caught by some solid shots himself,
he started the round landing the jab and he scored a good
combo to the stomach then landed a nice left hook on Froch
, but toward the end he was getting caught with a few solid shots
from Froch whilst applying that pressure, although he did trap
Froch on the ropes and scored another body attack, could of
gone either way but i like Kessler's consistency & aggression, oh
Kessler landed a nice right hand on Froch this round to.

Round 7 Kessler
Much better round for Kessler as he seemed to zero on better
with his accuracy, he was more active and scored a combo early
where he went downstairs and brought a right hand over the
top, he also landed a short inside left hook after that, Kessler
caught Froch again toward the end as he closed out the round
better and nailed Carl when he left himself off balance

Round 8 Kessler
Not much in the round early, although Kessler did land a nice
counter right hand but Froch seemed to score with the jab throughout
the middle portion of the round, however Kessler nailed him
with another counter right hand that hurt him, Kessler then
pinned him against the ropes and put his punches together

Round 9 Froch

Better round for Froch as he landed the jab and scored
with an uppercut early, toward the end he was nailing Kessler
with his wild **** that comes out out of left field

Round 10 Froch

Both answered each others attacked this round but Froch
managed to edge infront by landing the more solid
cleaner punches, he also got the best of Kessler in the exchanges imo.

Round 11 Kessler (tough round to score)

Kessler started well letting his hands go in combination
as he went downstairs with the combo then brought it back
up top, he was also consistent the whole round imo, Froch
nailed him mid round but he also nailed Froch with the biggest
punch of the round, a right hand, Froch came back toward the
end but i liked Kessler's consistency over the round, he sustained
his attack more imo.

Round 12 Kessler (very hard to score)
This round could of gone either way but i think what tipped
it was that Kessler landed more solid punches on Froch that
were also harder punches imo, he also closed the round out
right toward the end, Froch closed it out to but what was more
pivotal for me was that Kessler closed it out with like 10 seconds
to go, Froch did his best work 20 seconds before that.


I had it a draw but given the fact i made a note beside each of
the 3 rounds Kessler won on my card that each of those rounds were extremely
hard to score and could of gone either way and i only gave Froch the benefit of the
doubt in one round (round 1), then i guess you could say i was a little
bit kinder to Kessler and that, that should be a sign that Froch might have
slightly edged it, it was a very close fight to score though so maybe a draw was
a fair reflection.

I felt Kessler could of had more success if had he put more sustained pressure
on Froch, Froch is a guy that cant fight aswell going backward but he can cope to
a degree, particularly when you are not applying consistent sustained pressure, Kessler
was closing distance methodically imo, only in a few rounds did he really fight the kinda
fight im talking about and keep the pressure on Froch, he won those rounds clearer to
, now the reason i feel it would of benefited Kessler more to put more sustained
pressure on Froch is because Froch gets wide when pressure and does not have good
technique, he wings punches when pressure is put on him and leaves his chin out, that is why keeping the pressure on him would of worked wonders imo. Also i think maybe Froch's
workrate was so poor BECAUSE! he was backed up, he knew if he let hands go Boxing
off the backfoot that he would leave himself more exposed because he does not trust his
technique, therefore he played it safe and tried to pick his spots more although it worked
against him as he was too inactive a lot of the time.


Froch for his part should of been trying to back Kessler up and take advantage of him backing
up straight and followed him with those long looping shots, Kessler did a better job
of not going back straight but he still did it occasionally and paid for it when Froch
threw his wild long loopey punches.
__________________



Angulo
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio (Angulo came on toward the end)
Angulo (close but Angulo was more consistent for me)
Joel Julio
Angulo (harder shots, although closish)
Angulo
Joel Julio

Angulo went back to walking in the front
door on Joel Julio he then timed a right hand over
the top of Julio's jab that dropped him, Julio
got up but ref waved it off.

Angulo still troubled be lateral movement, he was
reset by the movement and hit with quick fire combo's
from Julio, although toward the end his desperation turned
into more sustained pressure, great shot that finished it.

Watched two Larry Holmes title defenses last night that were one sided mismatches. The first one against Alfredo Evangelista was a complete and utter mismatch. Evangelista received 2 title matches in 18 months and he didn't deserve either. 7th round ko by Holmes.

2nd defense was a 1983 mismatch against Lucien Rodriguez. A 12 round shutout again against an opponent that had no business getting a heavyweight title match.

One other match I aw last night was a 1973 fight between Ali and Joe Bugner. An easy win for Ali. The most memorable part of the fight occurred at the beginning of the 4th round. Howard Cosell tells the tv audience that "Ali is the Black fighter and Bugner is the White fighter," after describing the color of their trunks. It was done in a light hearted fashion with no malice involved. Only Cosell would ever have attempted such levity.

[Shadows]

Wow cheers JAB.

Kessler vs Froch

Round 1 Froch( extremely close)

Not much in this round, Kessler landed some rights to
the body and scored with the jab a little, Froch however
scored with a left hook, cuffing right hand and was
a little more active, although this could easily be called even.

Round 2 Kessler
Not much in this round either, Kessler was touching
Froch upstairs and downstairs whilst Froch was a little inactive
and waiting, although he did seem to score at the end a little
, both rounds 1 & 2 were pick em rounds so i split the difference
and give them one each, as i do feel Froch may just! of edged
round 1 on the harder punches

Round 3 Froch

Froch started well with the jab but let Kessler come on mid
round as Kessler was able to touch him to the body, although
toward the end Froch put that left hook right hand together
and came alive down the stretch to score with the more solid
punches to punctuate the round imo

Round 4 Froch
Not much in the round early but mid round Froch landed
a solid right hand and then a lead uppercut that landed clean
, he also scored the jab toward the end, Kessler came back a little
but a Froch round for me.

Round 5 Froch
Clearest round of the fight to score, Froch landed a serious
of solid punches on Kessler, Froch landed those long reaching looping
shots

Round 6 Kessler (very close)

This was hard to score because Kessler was more aggressive
and consistent but also got caught by some solid shots himself,
he started the round landing the jab and he scored a good
combo to the stomach then landed a nice left hook on Froch
, but toward the end he was getting caught with a few solid shots
from Froch whilst applying that pressure, although he did trap
Froch on the ropes and scored another body attack, could of
gone either way but i like Kessler's consistency & aggression, oh
Kessler landed a nice right hand on Froch this round to.

Round 7 Kessler
Much better round for Kessler as he seemed to zero on better
with his accuracy, he was more active and scored a combo early
where he went downstairs and brought a right hand over the
top, he also landed a short inside left hook after that, Kessler
caught Froch again toward the end as he closed out the round
better and nailed Carl when he left himself off balance

Round 8 Kessler
Not much in the round early, although Kessler did land a nice
counter right hand but Froch seemed to score with the jab throughout
the middle portion of the round, however Kessler nailed him
with another counter right hand that hurt him, Kessler then
pinned him against the ropes and put his punches together

Round 9 Froch

Better round for Froch as he landed the jab and scored
with an uppercut early, toward the end he was nailing Kessler
with his wild **** that comes out out of left field

Round 10 Froch

Both answered each others attacked this round but Froch
managed to edge infront by landing the more solid
cleaner punches, he also got the best of Kessler in the exchanges imo.

Round 11 Kessler (tough round to score)

Kessler started well letting his hands go in combination
as he went downstairs with the combo then brought it back
up top, he was also consistent the whole round imo, Froch
nailed him mid round but he also nailed Froch with the biggest
punch of the round, a right hand, Froch came back toward the
end but i liked Kessler's consistency over the round, he sustained
his attack more imo.

Round 12 Kessler (very hard to score)
This round could of gone either way but i think what tipped
it was that Kessler landed more solid punches on Froch that
were also harder punches imo, he also closed the round out
right toward the end, Froch closed it out to but what was more
pivotal for me was that Kessler closed it out with like 10 seconds
to go, Froch did his best work 20 seconds before that.


I had it a draw but given the fact i made a note beside each of
the 3 rounds Kessler won on my card that each of those rounds were extremely
hard to score and could of gone either way and i only gave Froch the benefit of the
doubt in one round (round 1), then i guess you could say i was a little
bit kinder to Kessler and that, that should be a sign that Froch might have
slightly edged it, it was a very close fight to score though so maybe a draw was
a fair reflection.

I felt Kessler could of had more success if had he put more sustained pressure
on Froch, Froch is a guy that cant fight aswell going backward but he can cope to
a degree, particularly when you are not applying consistent sustained pressure, Kessler
was closing distance methodically imo, only in a few rounds did he really fight the kinda
fight im talking about and keep the pressure on Froch, he won those rounds clearer to
, now the reason i feel it would of benefited Kessler more to put more sustained
pressure on Froch is because Froch gets wide when pressure and does not have good
technique, he wings punches when pressure is put on him and leaves his chin out, that is why keeping the pressure on him would of worked wonders imo. Also i think maybe Froch's
workrate was so poor BECAUSE! he was backed up, he knew if he let hands go Boxing
off the backfoot that he would leave himself more exposed because he does not trust his
technique, therefore he played it safe and tried to pick his spots more although it worked
against him as he was too inactive a lot of the time.


Froch for his part should of been trying to back Kessler up and take advantage of him backing
up straight and followed him with those long looping shots, Kessler did a better job
of not going back straight but he still did it occasionally and paid for it when Froch
threw his wild long loopey punches.
__________________



Angulo
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio
Joel Julio (Angulo came on toward the end)
Angulo (close but Angulo was more consistent for me)
Joel Julio
Angulo (harder shots, although closish)
Angulo
Joel Julio

Angulo went back to walking in the front
door on Joel Julio he then timed a right hand over
the top of Julio's jab that dropped him, Julio
got up but ref waved it off.

Angulo still troubled be lateral movement, he was
reset by the movement and hit with quick fire combo's
from Julio, although toward the end his desperation turned
into more sustained pressure, great shot that finished it.

I will have my card up tonight, after I view it a second time. Not really looking forward to it, that fight is not as good as many make it out to be, IMHO.

[1SILVA]

I will have my card up tonight, after I view it a second time. Not really looking forward to it, that fight is not as good as many make it out to be, IMHO.

I agree with you. Just another example of Gus Johnson overhyping a fight with his exaggerated announcing.

[Dynamite Kid]

Good call, Jab. This is my favorite thread. Big shout out to Dynamite for creating this thread.

Watched two Larry Holmes title defenses last night that were one sided mismatches. The first one against Alfredo Evangelista was a complete and utter mismatch. Evangelista received 2 title matches in 18 months and he didn't deserve either. 7th round ko by Holmes.

2nd defense was a 1983 mismatch against Lucien Rodriguez. A 12 round shutout again against an opponent that had no business getting a heavyweight title match.

One other match I aw last night was a 1973 fight between Ali and Joe Bugner. An easy win for Ali. The most memorable part of the fight occurred at the beginning of the 4th round. Howard Cosell tells the tv audience that "Ali is the Black fighter and Bugner is the White fighter," after describing the color of their trunks. It was done in a light hearted fashion with no malice involved. Only Cosell would ever have attempted such levity.

I will have my card up tonight, after I view it a second time. Not really looking forward to it, that fight is not as good as many make it out to be, IMHO.

Thanks for the shout out 1SILVA

Lol cautious Joe actually had pretty fast hand and footspeed imo.


For sure Shadows, it was pretty tipy tapy stuff a lot of the way, not a great fight imo, definitely FOTY material, that said i also thought Williams/Martinez was exaggerated a little, although that was still a good fight, albeit not the classic its made to be imo.

[1SILVA]

Thanks for the shout out 1SILVA

Lol cautious Joe actually had pretty fast hand and footspeed imo.


For sure Shadows, it was pretty tipy tapy stuff a lot of the way, not a great fight imo, definitely FOTY material, that said i also thought Williams/Martinez was exaggerated a little, although that was still a good fight, albeit not the classic its made to be imo.

I wasn't ripping Joe. Bugner was the best of a bad European Heavyweight lot in the 70's. I was ripping Lucien and Evangelista, those guys had no business getting title shots. Before the Ali-Bugner fight, Dundee warned Cosell that Bugner was a better fighter than given credit for. Hell, at 37, he kicked Greg Page's ass.

[Dynamite Kid]

I wasn't ripping Joe. Bugner was the best of a bad European Heavyweight lot in the 70's. I was ripping Lucien and Evangelista, those guys had no business getting title shots. Before the Ali-Bugner fight, Dundee warned Cosell that Bugner was a better fighter than given credit for. Hell, at 37, he kicked Greg Page's ass.

Oh i know, just thought id say something positive about him.

[Irish Hitman]

I watch Mosley vs margarito, hatton vs malignaggi, williams vs martinez!