Mayweather's Position, All Time P4P List

[Kid Cauliflower]

I didn’t sneak anything in. I stated that outright.

I did in the post. I spelled it out- this isn’t some list. It’s an anti Floyd thread.

The thread will become whatever people make of it, like all threads. You tried to turn it into something else but that didn't take. Better luck next time.

[Kid Cauliflower]

I disagree on that. I'd actually argue Floyd was a further past his prime than Pacquaio, but, that's debatable obviously.

I just think, in Pacquaio's case, if you're the #1 WW in the world, and #2 P4P fighter in the entire sport across all weight classes, then that holds weight. It has to.

He doesn't get credit for beating a prime Pacquaio, obviously. But I think he deserves a whole lot of credit for beating that version of Pacquaio who would still beat every other active fighter around his weight class at that time. But, that's just me.



Honey badgers maybe



Reasonably quickly.

It's all contextual. As previously mentioned it's an extremely complex field, many moving parts.

If someone were to be blasting potent compounds and cruising for an extended period of time I.e multiple years and you were to go cold turkey then the benefits would instantly decrease and eventually to the point where you're actually worse off then when you started, due to the shut down of your natural testosterone production. But that's why, like myself, and essentially everyone else who has used PED's for their job, take a TRT dose for life so our test is at normal range (or higher).

On the flip side, if someone were to do a handful of cycles of ****** for example, a mild PED, then call it a day, the benefits aren't going to decrease all that much at all. So it's just down to the context; Dosages, specific compounds, etc etc etc etc etc.



Would need to see exactly what and where to know further but it sounds like the brachialis. Essentially the muscle that moves the elbow in laymans terms.



I would have to see it to understand more spherically but sounds like one of his flexors, likely the Capri Radalis.

From the the sound of it your Dad's friend was genetically gifted.

Will I have seen it before? I would say extremely likely but the human body and it's make up is a truly incredible thing, so it's possible he has some freakish genetic make up.

I trained in the same gym from time to time with Dorian Yates in the 1980's and 90's, who's arguably the greatest Body builder of all time, and one of the most mutant, freakish looking human beings that have ever lived. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, so to answer your question I don't know But probably, I would say.

Yeah he was freakish, and he wasn't into showing off his strength at all, well, maybe a little. Deer hunting, someone mentioned a strong man they had seen packing a deer easily. He threw a deer onto his shoulders and jogged with it all the way back to camp-- about a mile and a half.

One more feat of strength and endurance. He had a job in a big lumber yard with hundreds of units of curing lumber. Every row has stickers between itself and the next row (a sticker is what they call the spacer stick), the lumber can dry out (cure).

When it is done drying the idea is to lift each row up so someone else can pull the stickers out, normally a forklift's job. But that was too slow for him. He had their machine shop build him a smaller pair of forklift blades with like handle bars on the ends. The whole thing was welded into one piece of equipment. He used that instead. He could lift all rows up with speed. Down near the bottom where you have to lift all the rows at once, a unit of lumber gets really heavy. Lifting it from the side like that I am not sure how many hundreds of pounds that was--but a few, and he did it all day long.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah he was freakish, and he wasn't into showing off his strength at all, well, maybe a little. Deer hunting, someone mentioned a strong man they had seen packing a deer easily. He threw a deer onto his shoulders and jogged with it all the way back to camp-- about a mile and a half.

One more feat of strength and endurance. He had a job in a big lumber yard with hundreds of units of curing lumber. Every row has stickers between itself and the next row (a sticker is what they call the spacer stick), the lumber can dry out (cure).

When it is done drying the idea is to lift each row up so someone else can pull the stickers out, normally a forklift's job. But that was too slow for him. He had their machine shop build him a smaller pair of forklift blades with like handle bars on the ends. The whole thing was welded into one piece of equipment. He used that instead. He could lift all rows up with speed. Down near the bottom where you have to lift all the rows at once, a unit of lumber gets really heavy. Lifting it from the side like that I am not sure how many hundreds of pounds that was--but a few, and he did it all day long.

I had a cousin from my Canadian families side built from the same kind of stuff. Didn't lift a weight in his life, did a lot of farming, freakish strength that I'd never seen in my life.

I was about 250-260 lbs at the time, give or take. 15 years his elder too, I was about 35 at the time, yet anytime we had a wrestle or tussle, he'd get the better of me Very frustrating.

Genetics are very wild. Some people are just freakishly strong, or gifted physically, you're born with it. Some people, like me, I have pretty average genetics, maybe slightly above. I have to diet to the absolute book, train like a maniac and live the most disciplined life possible if I wanted to achieve something. Which I did, but I had to go to deaths door to achieve my pro card.

Then you've got my cousin, and your Dad's pal, who could have probably done it in half the time with half the effort.

I do love this stuff though, honestly.

[djtmal]

I didn’t sneak anything in. I stated that outright.

I did in the post. I spelled it out- this isn’t some list. It’s an anti Floyd thread.

*sniffles*

[djtmal]

Right so you rank Andre Ward ahead of Mayweather then?

That's got to be some form of comedy I'm assuming?

No Ward actually beat a slew of fighters in their primes, something Mayweather wasn't willing to do

[IronDanHamza]

No Ward actually beat a slew of fighters in their primes, something Mayweather wasn't willing to do

Oh really, a slew, like who?

[QueensburyRules]

I happen to be a fan of Ward's I think he actually comes close to Mayweather in some respects, Mostly in how he dominated a lot of his competition... But Ward would have ranked a lot higher if Kovalev had reached a potential many thought he could. As it stands Ward beat some marquee fighters, Hall of Famers, but alas... no ATG's. I give Floyd conditional credit on the Pac fight, though I think that fight was strictly a judges discretion if a decision... No one showed dominance over the other...

As far as Floyd ranking... I really want more time to pass... Lets see how some of the guys At 130 look in a career... Floyd was dominant here and a lot of guys are passing through the division. Floyd belongs somewhere on an ATG list... I am just not sure where yet.

- - Nobody could head butt, kick, low blow, elbow, hit on the break and maintain home fights in an international tourney where all the other fighters took losses as the away fighter.

I must say, U or Ginsberg or Keroack really know how to pick'em.

[billeau2]

- - Nobody could head butt, kick, low blow, elbow, hit on the break and maintain home fights in an international tourney where all the other fighters took losses as the away fighter.

I must say, U or Ginsberg or Keroack really know how to pick'em.

Wow! Now I have him stalking me!!! I guess I am getting through to the Queen B at last!!!! Thank you for the attention! Ward would kick the shiat out of both Klits the same night if they were the same weight... lol.

[Kid Cauliflower]

There is no room for doubt that at least one of Son of God's butts against Kessler was intentional. He understood he was well ahead and decided to take the fight to the scorecards right there. I hated to watch his fights but always understood he was very good. It was a big and unnecessary risk for such an easy fight.

[IronDanHamza]

There is no room for doubt that at least one of Son of God's butts against Kessler was intentional. He understood he was well ahead and decided to take the fight to the scorecards right there. I hated to watch his fights but always understood he was very good. It was a big and unnecessary risk for such an easy fight.

Remember he was a big underdog in that fight as well, Ward.

That was a good win for him, despite the headbutts which put a slight damper on it.