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    #71
    Originally posted by Ivich View Post

    You can check the ranking places,other than that it's just personal opinion. Add to those I named ,Hopkins and Jones,and you have the following.
    Mitchell no 5
    Brewer no 8
    Lacy no3
    Bika no 8
    Kessler no 1
    He also beat
    Reid
    Eubanks
    Woodhall

    Hopkins Champ
    Jones no6​
    6 ranked men and 1 worlds champion

    Ottke .22 defences but only 8 were Ring ranked.
    I trust your information regarding rankings, but I don't trust rankings. Rankings are always fraught with inconsistencies, misplacement and politics. Rankings are worthless unless they are unblemished and the most highly ranked fighters always get the title shot. I trust my own peepers more than a list made by Marco Suilaman's lackeys. You probably got me mixed up with someone else who uses rankings as a yardstick.
    nathan sturley max baer likes this.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Slugfester View Post

      I trust your information regarding rankings, but I don't trust rankings. Rankings are always fraught with inconsistencies, misplacement and politics. Rankings are worthless unless they are unblemished and the most highly ranked fighters always get the title shot. I trust my own peepers more than a list made by Marco Suilaman's lackeys. You probably got me mixed up with someone else who uses rankings as a yardstick.
      They are the Rings rankings,no I haven't got you mixed up with anyone else.

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        #73
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        No he wasn’t #5, that is a lie.

        And he was shot.
        - - So Shot Poppy was still ducking their rematch.

        Y you ain't show us pics of U hambone thru U honker?

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          #74
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - So Shot Poppy was still ducking their rematch.

          Y you ain't show us pics of U hambone thru U honker?
          Irrelevant.

          Roy Jones wasn’t #5, fact.

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            #75

            this is rummy's corner on calzaghe's best 5 wins
            you calling rummy ****** now are you?

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              #76
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              Irrelevant.

              Roy Jones wasn’t #5, fact.
              - - Hambone layered in fact on the boil = Hambone Dan...

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                #77
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Hambone layered in fact on the boil = Hambone Dan...
                queensbury I would like to back you in this debate but I am not an interventionist god.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                  Irrelevant.

                  Roy Jones wasn’t #5, fact.
                  Can we give him he was ranked number 6th and leave it there?

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ivich View Post
                    Can we give him he was ranked number 6th and leave it there?
                    Yeah we can, because that’s where he was ranked.

                    Not #5 which he objectively wasn’t.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      Yeah we can, because thatâs where he was ranked.

                      Not #5 which he objectively wasnât.
                      don't put all your faith in rankings as one win or won loss can move a boxer right up to number 3 or right down to number 9. i have even known it sometimes that, without even fighting the placement changes.
                      remember that styles make fights.
                      think of eubank vs benn. eubank dislocated benn with his style he confused him and got him agitated, yet if benn fought a straight up knock your head of style of boxer then benn would no doubt win.
                      rankings alone cannot answer it all. like horse racing a horse can be 20 to one yet he is good on soft ground and it rains loads the night before. that horse wins so stats show him as a winner for people studying the betting. in his next race he comes sixth on hard ground. styles make fights and rankings are not the lone metric for picking the winner.
                      Last edited by max baer; 09-23-2023, 04:35 PM.

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