Giant Heavyweights Always Could Have Ruled?

[Marchegiano]

I take it this means, that you believe lighter boxers would rule the HW division, if we extended the number of rounds in title fights to, for example, 45?

Yes, absolutely. at 45 rounds, 3 mins per round, 1 min break, 200lbs is about the limit I would think.

It's not exactly the same but I think similar. Distance runners don't look like bodybuilders for a good reason. 160-140 at 6 foot for distance runners last I knew. Because it's an endurance sport.

In the world of cycle it's about 150 '5'10 give or take a few pounds and inches.

Rowing is one that avails itself a little more to strength. They have two divisions, LW and HW, Light is 160 and under, Heavy is above 160 with the ideal weight, for men, being around 205. A far cry from 265. People not in the know may think LW is faster than HW because smaller people are faster but the strength of the HW division disproportionally propels their boats. HW rowing is faster because they are stronger despite being heavier. With this knowledge alone one might assume a strongman would be a great rower, but, at their size they struggle with the endurance aspect of HW rowing and end up dead in the water.


Not trying to say I know for sure or anything like that but I do strongly feel the rules of the sport changed who can be effective far more than anything else. Conversely I do believe if rowing was done in short distances larger men would have more success. Think in terms of lifting. Thor lifted over 1000 pounds while weighing no where near 1000 pounds. That's a lot of force in the water. If Thor was to go one stroke a piece against a 205 lifter no one should be shocked to see that force displayed in speed.

[Marchegiano]

"did not provided" Is that Esperanto?lol

Not rying to jump into this one, just liked the post because esperanto is a funny language in general.

[Bundana]

Yes, absolutely. at 45 rounds, 3 mins per round, 1 min break, 200lbs is about the limit I would think.

It's not exactly the same but I think similar. Distance runners don't look like bodybuilders for a good reason. 160-140 at 6 foot for distance runners last I knew. Because it's an endurance sport.

In the world of cycle it's about 150 '5'10 give or take a few pounds and inches.

Rowing is one that avails itself a little more to strength. They have two divisions, LW and HW, Light is 160 and under, Heavy is above 160 with the ideal weight, for men, being around 205. A far cry from 265. People not in the know may think LW is faster than HW because smaller people are faster but the strength of the HW division disproportionally propels their boats. HW rowing is faster because they are stronger despite being heavier. With this knowledge alone one might assume a strongman would be a great rower, but, at their size they struggle with the endurance aspect of HW rowing and end up dead in the water.


Not trying to say I know for sure or anything like that but I do strongly feel the rules of the sport changed who can be effective far more than anything else. Conversely I do believe if rowing was done in short distances larger men would have more success. Think in terms of lifting. Thor lifted over 1000 pounds while weighing no where near 1000 pounds. That's a lot of force in the water. If Thor was to go one stroke a piece against a 205 lifter no one should be shocked to see that force displayed in speed.

The top marathon runners are typically tiny East Africans no more than 5'6" and below 130 lbs. No matter how hard and long a 200 lbs man trains, he will never be able to compete with world class runners over such a long distance.

But the difference between a marathon run and a "marathon" fight, is obviously that a running race isn't over, until the contestans cross the finish line - while a boxing match, scheduled for 45 rounds, can be over in a few rounds.

So can we think of any sub-200 lbs boxers today (or from the past), who would be able to hang in there with Fury, Joyce, Usyk, etc - until the big guys collapse from fatigue? Or would they likely be stopped, long before the endurance factor kicks in?

[Willie Pep 229]

Not rying to jump into this one, just liked the post because esperanto is a funny language in general.

New word for me, thank you Ivich.

Esperanto: White man's Yiddish! ; failed attempt.

[QueensburyRules]

New word for me, thank you Ivich.

Esperanto: White man's Yiddish! ; failed attempt.

- - If International Diplomats oddly absent in the Russian/Ukrainian disaster were forced to negotiate in Esperanto, well...

Esperanto-Day-12.jpg

[kara]

Primo was discovered in the circus. He did not come close to gassing out ever. Neither did Willard. Or Abe Simon.

I dont really remember Valuev gassing. He was just slow as molasses.

[Dr. Z]

The top marathon runners are typically tiny East Africans no more than 5'6" and below 130 lbs. No matter how hard and long a 200 lbs man trains, he will never be able to compete with world class runners over such a long distance.

But the difference between a marathon run and a "marathon" fight, is obviously that a running race isn't over, until the contestans cross the finish line - while a boxing match, scheduled for 45 rounds, can be over in a few rounds.

So can we think of any sub-200 lbs boxers today (or from the past), who would be able to hang in there with Fury, Joyce, Usyk, etc - until the big guys collapse from fatigue? Or would they likely be stopped, long before the endurance factor kicks in?

But a 175 pound man would be a giant next to them. Besides they are any ( I'm sure there is one form these routes that win martahons ) East African in boxing above the middle weight division and they would last but 30 second vs a modern heavyweight in boxing.

[Ivich]

The top marathon runners are typically tiny East Africans no more than 5'6" and below 130 lbs. No matter how hard and long a 200 lbs man trains, he will never be able to compete with world class runners over such a long distance.

But the difference between a marathon run and a "marathon" fight, is obviously that a running race isn't over, until the contestans cross the finish line - while a boxing match, scheduled for 45 rounds, can be over in a few rounds.

So can we think of any sub-200 lbs boxers today (or from the past), who would be able to hang in there with Fury, Joyce, Usyk, etc - until the big guys collapse from fatigue? Or would they likely be stopped, long before the endurance factor kicks in?

The majority of successful long distance runners now come from high altitude countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia.

[Ivich]

But a 175 pound man would be a giant next to them. Besides they are any ( I'm sure there is one form these routes that win martahons ) East African in boxing above the middle weight division and they would last but 30 second vs a modern heavyweight in boxing.

If they are good enough to win MARTAHONS,the skies the limit!

[QueensburyRules]

I dont really remember Valuev gassing. He was just slow as molasses.

- - Niko was actually quite quick in his youth as Ice John related in our first exposure to his presence..

He retired for surgery needed to save him from further debilitating long term effects of his pituitary gland generated Giantism.