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    Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and won?

    Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and lost?

    I understand this is a very tough question. I don't have an answer.

    #2
    Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
    Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and won?

    Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and lost?

    I understand this is a very tough question. I don't have an answer.
    Modern day, you would have to say Gatti, no?

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      #3
      Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
      Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and won?

      Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and lost?

      I understand this is a very tough question. I don't have an answer.
      It is very tough!
      It's possible one fight answers this.Frazier /Ali?
      Moore v Durelle?

      Many champs have gone out nobly on their shield.
      Johnson V Willard
      Pedroza v McGuigan
      Zale v Cerdan
      Basilio v Robinson
      Fitz v Jeffries 2
      I really don't have a definitive answer either!
      Last edited by Ivich; 07-23-2022, 02:49 AM.

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        #4
        Won: Julio Cesar Chavez vs. MeldrickTaylor (I)

        Lost: Danny 'Little Red' Lopez vs. Salvador Sanchez (I)

        P.S. I m not 100 % sure what title/belt was at play in Chavez-Taylor so maybe it technically does not fit the question's rules. Sorry. It would have felt that way to me (that he had lost a title) if he would have lost.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
          Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and won?

          Which boxing champion put up the most heroic defense of his title and lost?

          I understand this is a very tough question. I don't have an answer.
          - - Tubby 5-5 Qawi went toe to toe wif Vander to drop a highly disputed decision where he was one of the first name fighters if not the first to accuse Vander of PED use, and that on top of putting Vander in ICU, so that's as heroic is it gets in defense and arguably winning the fight the judges say you lost.

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            #6
            Pacman vs Horn. Manny fought through adversity but still lost.

            Katie Taylor vs Amanda Serrano might answer the complete question.

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              #7
              We can find a superfluity of great examples on this topic. No example given is wrong. Marciano with his nose laid open like a suitcase and filled by his corner with rubber cement so he could continue, always stands out for me as Above And Beyond The Call Of Duty. It seems unlikely that any boxing fan in the world would have held it against him if he had quit.

              But then look at what Willard endured trying to keep the title. Look what Clay went through in Zaire winning one. Clay may be the only boxer ever who could have survived Foreman's initial assault.

              Smaller fighters throw more punches and often go through hell from the pace alone. I remember Danny Red Lopez against Mike Ayala as a particularly brutal fight. Never watched it again though to see if that view held up.. Might do that tonight.

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                #8
                Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                We can find a superfluity of great examples on this topic. No example given is wrong. Marciano with his nose laid open like a suitcase and filled by his corner with rubber cement so he could continue, always stands out for me as Above And Beyond The Call Of Duty. It seems unlikely that any boxing fan in the world would have held it against him if he had quit.

                But then look at what Willard endured trying to keep the title. Look what Clay went through in Zaire winning one. Clay may be the only boxer ever who could have survived Foreman's initial assault.

                Smaller fighters throw more punches and often go through hell from the pace alone. I remember Danny Red Lopez against Mike Ayala as a particularly brutal fight. Never watched it again though to see if that view held up.. Might do that tonight.
                I've never read that Freddie Brown used "rubber cement"
                to close the cut, I presume you mean Monsel's Solution?They couldn't stop the bleeding.
                Marciano began having trouble with his nose before the Charles fight,he suffered a deviated septum in sparring for the 2nd Walcott fight.
                Last edited by Ivich; 07-25-2022, 09:06 AM.

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