Benitez vs Hearns could have gone either way

[them_apples]

Watch close, Hearns really struggles to land anything good for the majority of the fight. Benitez tags him enough times its just he’s not a big puncher.

where does this put Benitez if he got a decision over prime Hearns? Obv it would drop Hearns status as both Leonard and Benitez would have wins over him.

Benitez then would have victories over an ‘decent’ version of Duran and prime Hearns, as well as Palomino. Never did like Benitez style due to the fact that he pulls all his punches. But his riding of the ounches “el radar” defense was top tier

[QueensburyRules]

Watch close, Hearns really struggles to land anything good for the majority of the fight. Benitez tags him enough times its just he’s not a big puncher.

where does this put Benitez if he got a decision over prime Hearns? Obv it would drop Hearns status as both Leonard and Benitez would have wins over him.

Benitez then would have victories over an ‘decent’ version of Duran and prime Hearns, as well as Palomino. Never did like Benitez style due to the fact that he pulls all his punches. But his riding of the ounches “el radar” defense was top tier

- - OK, U like PoopsyStinkers, so surely that's another forum U would be better suited for.

[Willow The Wisp]

It's true. The fight matched two of the middle divisions most brilliant pure boxers of that era (or any), and Benitez was characteristically evasive while effective. The Hitman was famous for his hits, but when the occasion called for it, he could box anybody's ears off. A great display of high church sweet science.

[Willow The Wisp]

- - OK, U like PoopsyStinkers, so surely that's another forum U would be better suited for.

You are too funny dude.

[them_apples]

- - OK, U like PoopsyStinkers, so surely that's another forum U would be better suited for.

lmao whos poopsey

[JAB5239]

lmao whos poopsey

That's what he named his pet turd that keeps making his depends sag.

[QueensburyRules]

lmao whos poopsey

- - Generic, usually American stinkers that U sniff after. Benitez in this case an early talent counterpuncher defense wizard who's offensive output was so dire that his best wins are a couple of close Split Decisions.

He was a marvel physical talent with 2 cents + farthing for brains, and sadly left propped up long past his best that yielded yet another tragic post boxing debilitation.

Do U even understand the scoring rules of boxing stress offense first like every other credible sport? Saving hisself from being KOed is needed, but don't score offensive points.

[The Old LefHook]

I have a theory that boxers who have been boxing since they were little kids often have hidden, long-standing concussions. Too may boxers with glass chins were child boxers. For a guy known as el radar, child boxer Benitez sure got knocked down a lot as a pro, and faded relatively fast. Terry Norris could have been a great boxer, if not for a highly glass chin. Child boxer Roy Jones became a great boxer anyway, but it is hard to deny that he had a weak chin, when we finally got to see it tested.

Not all child boxers get hidden concussions early that affect their careers mightily. Trinidad had a decent chin with no associated problems.

Give me more examples of both, if you can, lads.

[them_apples]

I have a theory that boxers who have been boxing since they were little kids often have hidden, long-standing concussions. Too may boxers with glass chins were child boxers. For a guy known as el radar, child boxer Benitez sure got knocked down a lot as a pro, and faded relatively fast. Terry Norris could have been a great boxer, if not for a highly glass chin. Child boxer Roy Jones became a great boxer anyway, but it is hard to deny that he had a weak chin, when we finally got to see it tested.

Not all child boxers get hidden concussions early that affect their careers mightily. Trinidad had a decent chin with no associated problems.

Give me more examples of both, if you can, lads.

Could be a lot of factors behind this.

1. A child boxer has boxed their entire life and may get bored with boxing, having grown up in it and get “lax” in training
2. outside the ring damage from a violent lifestyle (ayala brothers were street fighting regularly)
3. A child boxer has also boxed longer in general, taking more damage
4. Most great boxers were very young when they started.

you may have a good point in general though that it might be a combination of good luck and genetics if you avoided serious brain damage as a child boxer. There may not be a direct answer it could just be an observation if it happened or didn’t. Most guys can name the specific time they took a particularly nasty shot or beating in sparring. I think it shoukd be noted that Norris suffered brain damage from jackson, and even admitted to it. Saying his voice changed and he started talking slower with slurred words after the knockout. Maybe he had a glass chin or maybe he didn’t, but Jackson hit tremendously hard instantly getting respect from bigger fighters like mccallum and mcllellan as far as power goes.

goes back to the other thread though, some may be built for it some may not. Robinson, in his book was saying kids would get knocked out in bouts as ammys and could barely stand up in the dressing room. And doctors were the ones forcing coaches to let their fighters recover, because coaches didn’t care and wanted money and would have you fighting the next day. If you weren’t tough they figured you didn’t belong in boxing. Then you got some guys that are just really tough and don’t seem to get concussed. Ali was noted as someone like this, Shannon Briggs was another. (Just off hand). Ali was noted that even when dropped as a teenager by pros he would recover very quickly with seemingly no ill effects. Briggs said he wasn’t the best boxer at first, but he knew he could take a beating because he was often in street fights and could take bare fists no problem.

[Willie Pep 229]

I have a theory that boxers who have been boxing since they were little kids often have hidden, long-standing concussions. Too may boxers with glass chins were child boxers. For a guy known as el radar, child boxer Benitez sure got knocked down a lot as a pro, and faded relatively fast. Terry Norris could have been a great boxer, if not for a highly glass chin. Child boxer Roy Jones became a great boxer anyway, but it is hard to deny that he had a weak chin, when we finally got to see it tested.

Not all child boxers get hidden concussions early that affect their careers mightily. Trinidad had a decent chin with no associated problems.

Give me more examples of both, if you can, lads.

I believe that the advent of plastic football helmets in the mid 1950s and players/coachs using it as an attack weapon (especially among linemen who crack helmets on every play) for 50 years shows us that the real cause of pugilistic dementia MAYBE is the extended/extensive minor blows taken during endless sparing sessions. The leather protective helmet and 18 oz training glove is just the right (wrong) formula to insure that a fighter can take hundreds of small blows daily without being "hurt."

When these kids start young that's just too many small blows to the head.