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    Ali and Frazier were not enemies.







    #2
    yea that 1st clip is a good one because its after all 3 fights, you see they were rivals but definitely didnt hate each other.....after retirement probably when people started loving ali more is when frazier got mad.....

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      #3
      Regardless of what ali said frazier certainly wasn't dumb.He knows when to use the ali feud for money or attention.It's been a regular theme over the past twenty years,Frazier says something bad about ali...then they get pictured smiling together at a basketball game,Two years later frazier says something bad about ali...three months later he forgives ali and loves him like a sibling

      Take their "feud" with a pinch of salt.Take their supposed former friendship with the tiniest grain of salt also

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        #4
        Ali and Frazier have had a very complicated relationship over the years. For anybody other than the men themselves to claim knowledge of it's workings would be an outright lie.

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          #5
          Joe Frazier really disliked Ali.....

          He was furious that Ali kept calling him an Uncle Tom before the 1st fight,and a Gorilla before the Thrill' in Manilla.

          Frazier admits to not giving Ali a rematch after the Fight of the Century because of Ali running off at the mouth.Frazier said Ali was full of sh**t.He was flat out offered $800,000 dollars to fight George Forman or 5 million to fight Ali.He took the $800,000 doallars and was destroyed by George Forman.

          Frazier did not give Ali a rematch for 3 years! And that is because George Forman said he would fight the winner.

          Frazier refused to call Ali by his name Muhammad Ali,and always referred to him as Clay.Not for many many years after they both retired did Frazier finally call him Muhammad.

          Muhammad Ali actually liked Joe Frazier.He called everybody names that he fought,but Frazier took it personally.The thing Frazier hated worse was that Ali turned the black people against him.

          Frazier had real hatred for Ali,but Ali was just pretending that he hated Frazier,when he truly liked and admired Joe.

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            #6
            Originally posted by boxingbuff View Post
            Joe Frazier really disliked Ali.....

            He was furious that Ali kept calling him an Uncle Tom before the 1st fight,and a Gorilla before the Thrill' in Manilla.

            Frazier admits to not giving Ali a rematch after the Fight of the Century because of Ali running off at the mouth.Frazier said Ali was full of sh**t.He was flat out offered $800,000 dollars to fight George Forman or 5 million to fight Ali.He took the $800,000 doallars and was destroyed by George Forman.

            Frazier did not give Ali a rematch for 3 years! And that is because George Forman said he would fight the winner.

            Frazier refused to call Ali by his name Muhammad Ali,and always referred to him as Clay.Not for many many years after they both retired did Frazier finally call him Muhammad.

            Muhammad Ali actually liked Joe Frazier.He called everybody names that he fought,but Frazier took it personally.The thing Frazier hated worse was that Ali turned the black people against him.

            Frazier had real hatred for Ali,but Ali was just pretending that he hated Frazier,when he truly liked and admired Joe.
            Frazier stuck up for Ali when he was banned from boxing. He even helped him financially once I believe. But after Ali got his licence back, he forgot all this and turned his back on Joe. Suddenly Joe was nothing but a ******, ugly ape to him. At least that's what he said. Who wouldn't get angry and hateful? I sure would. Calling someone like Frazier a "white man's champion" must be a truly great insult.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
              Frazier stuck up for Ali when he was banned from boxing. He even helped him financially once I believe. But after Ali got his licence back, he forgot all this and turned his back on Joe. Suddenly Joe was nothing but a ******, ugly ape to him. At least that's what he said. Who wouldn't get angry and hateful? I sure would. Calling someone like Frazier a "white man's champion" must be a truly great insult.
              Indeed.

              Let's also not forget that stunt Ali pulled in Manila with the firearm ; meant to scare Frazier.

              Ali is nowhere near the saint he's been portrayed as in popular culture.

              For every good thing he's done (and there's been many), there's a bad thing to go hand in hand with it.

              The ugliness he showed towards Frazier was something truly sick, IMO. And one of Ali's wives once said that when she asked Ali what he really felt about Joe Frazier, his response was something like ; "I think he's a damn nigger".

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                #8
                Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                Let's also not forget that stunt Ali pulled in Manila with the firearm ; meant to scare Frazier.
                UGH,This is what happens when you swallow the **** that HBO feeds you.Half truths,myths and lies should be their motto even though such bull**** is easily able to fool morons like this


                let's also not forget not to contradict ourselves

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by princemanspoper View Post
                  UGH,This is what happens when you swallow the **** that HBO feeds you.Half truths,myths and lies should be their motto even though such bull**** is easily able to fool morons like this


                  let's also not forget not to contradict ourselves
                  HBO may have exaggerated it a bit as they usually do with their Documentaries, but the event itself has been questioned by nobody.

                  Why am I not surprised that you would be the first one to question it?

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                    #10
                    You're not suprised because I don't fall for such bull**** unlike most so called boxing fans.And someone with such a limited mental capacity as yourself simply cannot understand as such.This is also a guy who thinks lie detector tests are a legitimate and reliable source of uncovering the truth so one can only be so frustrated with such ******ity

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