What Do You Think Is The Hardest Fanatsy Fight To Pick A Winner Out Of?

[DonTaseMeBrah]

any serious ones?

amir khan vs aaron pryor.

[mickey malone]

Bowe would never have beaten Lewis in a million years, not a hope.. He knew it in his heart, mind & soul.. He was undisciplined, reckless & unreliable.. His demise exemplifies this.. He looked good in 5 or 6 fights, then splat!... All over.. Brief tampering with the WBO, then out.. Won't even go into what happened after that.. Can't be compared to Louis in any way , shape or form...
With regard to THE Mitch Green.. Anyone remember the street fight with Tyson??

[sonnyboyx2]

Nice bit of spinning there again. If Lewis had fought those guys you'd be trashing him for it. It had been nearly a decade since Dokes was champion. He hadn't beaten anyone of note for years. Thomas, Biggs and Tubbs were faded remnants of the 80s and all had suffered various personal problems by that point. Tubbs gave Bowe a hard fight too. Decent names for a prospect to get on the resume, but hardly the stuff of legends. Lewis actually beat Biggs too, but no doubt he only fought him once he'd been "exposed" by Bowe.

The Mathis, Gonzalez and Donald fights were seen as what they were - easy set-ups. So was Golota, for that matter. The fact that he made hard work of Gonzalez and Donald is pretty revealing. Bowe was also lucky not to get DQ'd for punching Mathis while he was down Roy Jones-style. And citing Seldon as a "former heavyweight champion" is a joke.

Thomas, Biggs,Seldon & Donald are far better names on Bowes record than what Lewis fought on the way up, 40yrs old Chanet, 40yrs old cruiser Ocassio, McCrory (cruiserweight), Dan Murphy, Levi Billups, Mike Dixon... Bowe took on undefeated up and coming fighters fight after fight, Lewis took on tomato cans with loads of losses on their record and who was on the slide, Bowe never struggled with Gonzalez or Donald, he completely took the undefeated Gonzalez apart before knocking him unconcious, Bowe also had the boxing skills to hand Donald his first career defeat, Lennox Lewis was an oppotunist who only ever fought fighters who had been exposed and was on the downslide, Rid**** Bowe was a completely different kind of fighter who wanted to prove he was the best and took on lots of undefeated fighters who was unexposed unto fightnight...sorry if the truth hurts

[Gettin Jiggy]

pg 361.

The guy was KENT GREEN.

He beat Ali in the amateurs (KO'd him infact).

Got the first name wrong, from memory. I have read a huge number of books on HW history and all the great fighters. Data can get muddled, but it comes thru in the end.

what? ali was knocked out. was he out cold ot just stopped by the ref, and did he revenge the lost?

[Kid McCoy]

Thomas, Biggs,Seldon & Donald are far better names on Bowes record than what Lewis fought on the way up, 40yrs old Chanet, 40yrs old cruiser Ocassio, McCrory (cruiserweight), Dan Murphy, Levi Billups, Mike Dixon... Bowe took on undefeated up and coming fighters fight after fight, Lewis took on tomato cans with loads of losses on their record and who was on the slide, Bowe never struggled with Gonzalez or Donald, he completely took the undefeated Gonzalez apart before knocking him unconcious, Bowe also had the boxing skills to hand Donald his first career defeat, Lennox Lewis was an oppotunist who only ever fought fighters who had been exposed and was on the downslide, Rid**** Bowe was a completely different kind of fighter who wanted to prove he was the best and took on lots of undefeated fighters who was unexposed unto fightnight...sorry if the truth hurts

It might hurt if you'd actually told me some truths. Who had Donald and Gonzalez beaten to make Bowe beating them such a feat? I wasn't particularly impressed with Bowe's showings against those two, especially taking into account the level of opposition. An unbeaten record is meaningless if you haven't actually fought anyone worthwhile. Duane Bobick had a shiny 38-0 record at one point, but the first time he stepped up in class he got blasted out in a round.

Whatever you spin about these two can just as easily be spun the other way. On his way up Bowe fought 15 opponents with less than 10 wins to their name. Impressive? I note you missed out Lewis beating former heavyweight champion Mike Weaver, although no doubt the faded 80s contenders Bowe beat were a grade above the faded 80s contenders Lewis beat. Lewis also defeated 35-0 Gary Mason, who had actually beaten Biggs before Bowe did. No doubt that undefeated record can't hold a candle to the 16-0 of Donald and 14-0 of Mathis. Likewise Mavrovic's 27-0 and Grant's 31-0 not a patch on Gonzalez' 23-0 and Hide's 26-0.

[Sugarj]

I dont think Ali was ever knocked out (counted out) as an amateur, but I think he was stopped twice. I may be wrong here, Ali's amazing amateur record of over 120fights didn't contain many losses at all though.

I seem to remember reading that he was handed a second round TKO the night after losing his ******ity. Ellis beat him in the amateurs too.

Ali's amateur career began when he was twelve, remember........ he was just a kid, amazing that he won the light heavyweight gold medal at 18.

[-Swizzy-]

Well?

For Me
Liston/Marciano
Hagler/Hopkins
Sanchez/Arguello
Ray Leonard/Pryor

Discuss

easy, let me help you out. Liston would cream Marciano. Hagler would beat hopkins. SRL would school pryor.

sanchez/arguello is the only hard one for me.

[sonnyboyx2]

It might hurt if you'd actually told me some truths. Who had Donald and Gonzalez beaten to make Bowe beating them such a feat? I wasn't particularly impressed with Bowe's showings against those two, especially taking into account the level of opposition. An unbeaten record is meaningless if you haven't actually fought anyone worthwhile. Duane Bobick had a shiny 38-0 record at one point, but the first time he stepped up in class he got blasted out in a round.

Whatever you spin about these two can just as easily be spun the other way. On his way up Bowe fought 15 opponents with less than 10 wins to their name. Impressive? I note you missed out Lewis beating former heavyweight champion Mike Weaver, although no doubt the faded 80s contenders Bowe beat were a grade above the faded 80s contenders Lewis beat. Lewis also defeated 35-0 Gary Mason, who had actually beaten Biggs before Bowe did. No doubt that undefeated record can't hold a candle to the 16-0 of Donald and 14-0 of Mathis. Likewise Mavrovic's 27-0 and Grant's 31-0 not a patch on Gonzalez' 23-0 and Hide's 26-0.

Mike Weaver was nearly 40yrs old and was working as a sparring partner for Lewis so he was totally exposed, Gary Mason was rather fortunate to beat Biggs due to a controvercial stoppage from the british referee, Michael Grant had been exposed as weak chinned by Andrew Golota so Lewis chose to fight Grant rather than the No1 contender John Ruiz who held 2 victories over Evander Holyfield, Ruiz even put Holyfield on the canvas something Lewis never came close to doing, Herbie Hide was the undefeated WBO champion and had called-out Lennox Lewis `live` on British TV for several years but Lewis wanted nothing to do with Hide, Rid**** Bowe fought Hide only after Lewis had turned down a multi-million pound offer to face Bowe, Jorge Loius Gonzalez was a far more dangerous opponent than Michael Grant and Lewis knew that coz Gonzalez had beaten Lewis several times in the amateur ranks... the bottom line is that Lennox Lewis TWICE had the oppotunity to fight Rid**** Bowe, he `priced himself out` of a first fight and refused a career highest purse the second time, simply because he did not fancy his chances of beating Rid**** Bowe.

[mickey malone]

Mike Weaver was nearly 40yrs old and was working as a sparring partner for Lewis so he was totally exposed, Gary Mason was rather fortunate to beat Biggs due to a controvercial stoppage from the british referee, Michael Grant had been exposed as weak chinned by Andrew Golota so Lewis chose to fight Grant rather than the No1 contender John Ruiz who held 2 victories over Evander Holyfield, Ruiz even put Holyfield on the canvas something Lewis never came close to doing, Herbie Hide was the undefeated WBO champion and had called-out Lennox Lewis `live` on British TV for several years but Lewis wanted nothing to do with Hide, Rid**** Bowe fought Hide only after Lewis had turned down a multi-million pound offer to face Bowe, Jorge Loius Gonzalez was a far more dangerous opponent than Michael Grant and Lewis knew that coz Gonzalez had beaten Lewis several times in the amateur ranks... the bottom line is that Lennox Lewis TWICE had the oppotunity to fight Rid**** Bowe, he `priced himself out` of a first fight and refused a career highest purse the second time, simply because he did not fancy his chances of beating Rid**** Bowe.

An olympic gold would'a looked good on Bowes resume, & I wouldn't normally bring the amateurs into it, but with a gold nugget at stake, Lewis didn't just beat Bowe, he beat him emphaticly.. Probably his easiest victory in the competition.. It wasn't even close.. Bowe got polaxed with head gear on for God's sake!

[0Rooster4Life0]

I am Not sure if Anyone has Mentioned This, But i find it tough to prodict Foreman Vs Liston.


Ive always said i dont think anyone could stand toe to toe with Foreman and Win, But i think Liston may just have a HUGE chance, His Jab was great , He was Super Powerful. It would be Foreman Vs Lyle all over again, But More Brutal. I find it hard to pick the winner in this one.


But if i had to choose id have to pick Foreman.



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