Best STREETFIGHT in the ring the past 50 years

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Or any Sandy Saddler fight really. Watch the Flash Elorde fight for some of the best work ever to open up a bad cut by using the head.


The fourth fight between Pep and Saddler and the dirtiest, both fighters were suspended after this fight. Pep reportedly studied Judo to prepare for this fight because Saddler had roughed up and dislocated his shoulder during a clinch in their previous bout.

Some of George Foreman's early fights resembled street muggings rather than boxing contests.



Rid**** Bowe was always involved in crazy stuff:

Here's a personal question Manchine. Do you work for a ****zine or anything boxing related, because i have to say, i've never seen such a vast knowledge of boxing from one person.

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did cotto try suplex oktay lol after he kept gettin butted

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Or any Sandy Saddler fight really. Watch the Flash Elorde fight for some of the best work ever to open up a bad cut by using the head.


The fourth fight between Pep and Saddler and the dirtiest, both fighters were suspended after this fight. Pep reportedly studied Judo to prepare for this fight because Saddler had roughed up and dislocated his shoulder during a clinch in their previous bout.


Rid**** Bowe was always involved in crazy stuff:

The Pep-Saddler fighter gets really dirty at about the 6 min. mark. Those who havent seen it should take the time to look from there on out.

The Bowe fight is a classic. Kicks and stuff and wasn't it Bowe's manager Newman trying to choke Tillery and drag him out of the ring? As I recall the incident wasn't there some suspension in the wake of this fiasco?

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Was it Vargas-Ross Thompson, when Fernando tried to spit on him after dropping him? That was ca bit street.

Vinny Pazienza continuing to pummel Dana Rosenblatt and dropping the ref after Rosenblatt had been ko'd by a punch from ther cheap seats. All this prompted NJ commisioner Larry Hazard to rush into the ring and restrain Paz.

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Was it Vargas-Ross Thompson, when Fernando tried to spit on him after dropping him? That was ca bit street.

Vinny Pazienza continuing to pummel Dana Rosenblatt and dropping the ref after Rosenblatt had been ko'd by a punch from ther cheap seats. All this prompted NJ commisioner Larry Hazard to rush into the ring and restrain Paz.

Yeah, Nando spit on Thompson.

Tony Ayala Jr. also spit on an opponent. He's such a scumbag. I detest him. He should be killed for the good of humanity.

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Hopkins-Echols 2, Pedroza-Laporte, Casmayor-Katsidis were all pretty entertaining dirty fights.

Liles-Littles 2. I think there's a link to that in the video forum.

A must-see if you like wild, dirty fights.

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Gatti/Ward was kinda streetfight. Kinda.

Jack Dempsey vs. Jesse Willard was hella a streetfight. Dempsey dipped his hands in plaster. Similar to brass knuckles? C'mon if that's not a street fight i don't know what is.

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Gatti/Ward was kinda streetfight. Kinda.

Jack Dempsey vs. Jesse Willard was hella a streetfight. Dempsey dipped his hands in plaster. Similar to brass knuckles? C'mon if that's not a street fight i don't know what is.

Dempsey did NOT dip his hands in plaster, nor did he have a rail road ****e in his hand to make his punches harder. These myths have been put to rest repeatedly.

Can you supply any concrete (no pun intended) proof of these accusations? I would bet dollars to donuts that you can't.


Since when can't you say the word s-p-i-k-e on these boards without having it censored. Thats kind of weird.

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Dempsey did NOT dip his hands in plaster, nor did he have a rail road ****e in his hand to make his punches harder. These myths have been put to rest repeatedly.

Can you supply any concrete (no pun intended) proof of these accusations? I would bet dollars to donuts that you can't.


Since when can't you say the word s-p-i-k-e on these boards without having it censored. Thats kind of weird.

Jab, I read about that railroad-****e or whatever it's called. I think it was Ferdie Pacheco who had talked to one of Dempseys handlers before he died. I think the story was that he had a picture of Dempsey discarding the object as he walked to his corner between round one and two.

There was something in the story about a sidebet Dempsey or his manager had made that Dempsey would KO Willard in the first thereby providing some motive for dempsey to cheat.

I'm pretty sure that said picture is gone by fire or something so only Ferdie knows if he told the truth.

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Jab, I read about that railroad-****e or whatever it's called. I think it was Ferdie Pacheco who had talked to one of Dempseys handlers before he died. I think the story was that he had a picture of Dempsey discarding the object as he walked to his corner between round one and two.

There was a picture of something on the canvas, but it has never been proven what it was or how it got there or disappeared. Here is a little snippet I took from another site that casts even more doubt upon the "iron bolt" theory.


There are very good reasons to doubt that Dempsey was holding an iron load in his glove, besides the false and exaggerated “medical” report. These are best summed up by historian Stan Smith who makes the following observations, “I pulled my 16MM film of the fight and in the first part of round one, before the first knock down, Dempsey moved around the ring with open gloves. The ****e would have made a hell of a clunk when it hit the ring floor. He also used open gloves, with both hands; on Willard’s arm to push him out of clinches. After the first knock down Dempsey held the top rope with his left hand and after one of the other knockdowns he did the same with his right hand, so much for the iron-****e theory.”

There was something in the story about a sidebet Dempsey or his manager had made that Dempsey would KO Willard in the first thereby providing some motive for dempsey to cheat.
I'm pretty sure that said picture is gone by fire or something so only Ferdie knows if he told the truth.

I see where you're coming from but I gotta ask myself, does Dempsey take a chance on getting disqualified for heavyweight championship of the world by bringing a foriegn object to the ring in front of 50 thousand people or more (sorry, don't have the exact numbers)? I doubt it. On top of all this, to my knowledge Willard never accused Dempsey of cheating.