Klitschko vs. Jack Johnson

[Steak]

You so don't know what you are talking about. In fact i bet you have never seen Johnson fight ever. Do some homework. Johnson would have beaten both of them. He was a good situational master and knew when to take risks. That and he wasn't necessarily a small heavyweight even by todays standards.


Sweet

bah, Jack Johnson was an upgraded John Ruiz, and Im not even joking. he gets praised for his 'smart tactics' of being bigger and leaning on his smaller(160lb) opponents, but in reality all hes doing is clinching the hell out of everyone.

I have a hard time seeing how Johnson wouldve lasted the fight against Wlad.

[TheGreatA]

bah, Jack Johnson was an upgraded John Ruiz, and Im not even joking. he gets praised for his 'smart tactics' of being bigger and leaning on his smaller(160lb) opponents, but in reality all hes doing is clinching the hell out of everyone.

I have a hard time seeing how Johnson wouldve lasted the fight against Wlad.

To be fair wrestling was more allowed back then than it is today, all fighters clinched a lot more. That was the style of the era. Ruiz would've done great.

Which is why I don't really get the point of match-ups where a boxer from a completely different time with different rules and styles is put against a modern boxer.

There's no real way of knowing. I could imagine Battling Nelson, with the rules of his day, going down more than 20 times against Floyd Mayweather but winning by TKO in the 40th round because of his toughness and rough tactics.

All those low blows, thumbs, headbutts and elbows could wear any man out.

[SorceryatCaesar]

what about personalities?

who psyches out who?

who would be more popular with the media?

[KostyaTszyu44]

I agree with everything however i would only favor Vitali over Johnson. Wlad doesn't have the chin or stamina.

If they believe that the old school fighters don't stand a chance against the modern, then how would they explain an old Larry Holmes beating Evander Holyfield( ''a modern GREAT fighter'') every time he would have the energy to do it. He completely owned Holyfield when he backed up into a corner and choose to counter punch, and this was an OLD Larry Holmes. Also, how would they explain an old George Foreman beating the ''modern'' Michael Moorer with only two punches. I can go on and on. Holmes vs Mercer, Roberto Duran vs Davey Moore, Tommy Hearns vs Virgil Hill, Freddie Norwoood vs Juan Manual Marquez ect. Many ''old school'' fighters have put beatings on new ''modern'' fighters.

we aint talkin bout larry holmes 70's old school

were talkin pre 1915-20 old school they wouldnt stand a ****in chance

[JAB5239]

we aint talkin bout larry holmes 70's old school

were talkin pre 1915-20 old school they wouldnt stand a ****in chance

With all do respect, it kills me how some will dog turn of the century fighters compared to todays boxers. They made less money, but trained harder and could fight longer. They took beatings with smaller horse hair gloves and didn't have the convenience of re-sceduelings fights if they were injured. Many were more well schooled defensively as they not only blocked punches, but parried, caught and slipped them as well. For their time they were much more well rounded than many of todays fighters. What makes anybody think that given todays training methods they wouldn't be as good or even better than todays top fighters is beyond me. Anyone got any answers?

[black.ink]

I think it's ridiculous to make these kind of match-ups. All opinions based on assumption does not prove anything. These boxers are nearly 100 years apart. Everything from diet to training methods have changed not to mention fighting styles and fights themselves were fought at a much slower pace at the turn of last century.

I don't mind a banter comparing two fighters from the same era, but these posts are pointless.

[Thunder Lips]

Bah, all fantasty match ups are just for fun; especially match ups like this.

Wlad has the tools to give Johnson the same problems that Willard did if not more. Like Willard he's a big strong clincher with good power and a very frustrating cautious style. Problem is that Wlad's stamina and durability is still very suspect and I doubt he could pull off what Jess did against Johnson. I see Johnson frustrating Wlad and stopping him late.




Wlad uses his jab and accurate power shots to wear down Byrd.



Johnson frustrates Jeffries and stops him while he's fatigued in the later rounds.