RJJ vs Ezzard Charles LHW Title who wins?

[Sweet Pete]

Ezzard Charles all the way. He was just an old school cagey fighter who could solve any style. He could punch and he could take a punch. He would be able to pick apart Jones' holes.

Charles was a rhythm based fighter, but a very smart one. Jones picked guys off their rhythm with his incredible speed and unorthodox style. This would be a bit of a chess match. I would favor Jones to get the better of the two, but I believe Charles is capable of KO'ing Jones as well.

[Vigilant3]

Head to head there is no question, in my mind, that Roy Jones Jr. would walk away with the win if they had fought.

Head to head, Roy Jones Jr. in his prime would have laid the hurt down on anyone that got in the ring with him.

You talk about the people in the past having fought once every three weeks. So what? Everyone fought once every three weeks back then, so they were all on a level playing field. It's not like the people Charles fought were all rested up and training for a year to fight him. That's not how it worked. It's the same now. Roy Jones Jr. and whoever he ended up fighting trained for the same amount of time, so they were on a level playing field. Just because Charles fought more doesn't make him better or more durable because the guys he was fighting fought just as much if not more than him.

Glass jaw? Are you jokin'? The reason that RJJ was even KOable in the fights against Tarver and Johnson is because of the weight he lost jumping quickly down from heavy to lhw in such a short period of time. Because he made the muscle in his legs detriorate he lost the spring in his legs, and with it his ability to absorb the shock from being hit in the chin as well as he used to. Legs are a big part of the chin if you know how the body works.

I don't think you guys fully understand just how good Roy Jones was. He didn't even have to use conventional boxing. He went, what, almost 10 years without losing a round? He didn't just beat the other greats of his era, he crushed them. He made James Toney who, at the time, was considered the king P4P, look like an absolute bum. You can make any excuse you want for another fighter when they were against Jones...but it's just like he said; it's not that he didn't fight nobody, he just made them look like nobody.

Look at Clinton woods. Only decisive loss of his career, in which he is the LHW champion now? Yeah, it came from Jones who won every single round against him before the other corner threw in the towel. Look at Lucas. Lucas ended up being another title holder that faced off against Kessler.

If you're talking about power, this Ezzard Charles better have a chin of pure granite because RJJ could knock anyone out he fought. He chose not to. He blantantly stated that if he can go into the ring and fight a guy without having to hurt him, he will. He hated knocking people out right away and trying to hurt them, so in stead he was notorious for carrying his opponents through the fight. Where is this exemplified perfectly? The two Montel Griffin fights. The first fight, RJJ wasn't looking to hurt the guy and carried him through the fight until he got Disq'ed. What did this do? It pissed RJJ off. How did the next fight end? Round 1 KO. RJJ wasn't messing around that fight. RJJ broke a guy's ribs with one punch. If we're talking about power RJJ is not to be messed with.

Speed? RJJ is the fastest boxer, P4P, of all time. No question. Ezzard Charles wouldn't be avoiding **** especially with RJJ's immaculate timing. You're talking about a guy that can hit you from any angle, at any time, and he's already out of the way before you have a chance to throw a counter. But, not only that, he isn't afraid to stand and trade. Watch his fight with Ruiz. After his confidence was built up, he traded with Ruiz for a bit and, not only that, but got the better of it. He stunned Ruiz. He made Ruiz afraid to rush in. I'm 100% certain that if RJJ wasn't trying to prove he could go 12 rounds with a Heavyweight, he would have KOed Ruiz. And don't forget that Ruiz has only been KO'ed once in his entire career and he's faced some pretty strong guys.

So we're talking about a match-up where the power MIGHT go to Ezzard, but if it does he doesn't have a huge power advantage. Speed? No question goes to RJJ. Timing? RJJ. Reflexes? RJJ. The fight? RJJ. Ezzard Charles would be taking more explosive and powerful shots to the head than he ever took in his career when he fought professionally and regardless of how tough your chin is after a while that stuff wears you down. Not to mention the brutal body shots that RJJ gives with the same kind of power behind them. I'd call RJJ to win by KO by the 7th or 8th if he was actually trying to KO him, but, if not, UD for RJJ losing maybe 1 or 2 rounds.

[TheGreatA]

You sound like a Roy Jones fan.

[sleazyfellow]

of course he's a roy jones fan.....But back on topic, bob foster runs in hits both with a steel chair.

[Vigilant3]

You guys sound like morons who don't know anything substantial about boxing.

[TheGreatA]

You guys sound like morons who don't know anything substantial about boxing.

Hey, you are the mastermind who called Joe Louis a terrible technical fighter who had nothing but power.

[Vigilant3]

And you disagreeing shows just how much you know about boxing.

[sleazyfellow]

And you disagreeing shows just how much you know about boxing.

LOL I love this logic, you dont agree with me you know nothing about boxing!! these are all just opinions, yours isnt the truth.

[TheGreatA]

Joe Louis was a terrible fighter techincally. Every time he threw a punch his hands went down and that's how he lost the first fight to Max Schmeling.

Both of them had tremendous power. Joe Louis was known for it because he didn't really have much else.

And you disagreeing shows just how much you know about boxing.

Alright I'll explain it to you plain and simple.
You're calling Joe Louis, one of the most fundamentally sound fighters of all time, a bad technical boxer because of one fight he had in his early 20's.

Yes, Louis had a habit of leaving his left hand low after he threw a jab when he was young and Max Schmeling studied that habit thoroughly and schooled him with counter right hands. It was man against boy.

After that fight Joe Louis improved as a boxer, he became one of the best fundamental boxers of all time and reigned as the heavyweight champion for over 10 years.

Louis DESTROYED Max Schmeling in the first round when they had their rematch a few years later.

I was pretty sure just about everyone knew the Joe Louis' story on how he became the great technical boxer he is... well it seems like I was wrong about that.

[Sweet Pete]

And you disagreeing shows just how much you know about boxing.

Wow, you've just ruined any cred you once had, which was none.