Toughest Fighter Ever?

[sterling]

Who you think is the toughest fighter ever?
I think jake lamotta he was one tough guy and it can be agrued that rocky marciano might be but im gna go for jake.

[metalinmybrain]

Who you think is the toughest fighter ever?
I think jake lamotta he was one tough guy and it can be agrued that rocky marciano might be but im gna go for jake.

Sugar Ray Robinson is the toughest. He literally took Jake out of his game and wasn't even in his weight class to begin with. Jake doesn't have anything on Robinson neither does Marciano when it comes to toughness!

[Mike Tyson77]

Sugar Ray Robinson is the toughest. He literally took Jake out of his game and wasn't even in his weight class to begin with. Jake doesn't have anything on Robinson neither does Marciano when it comes to toughness!

Well Marciano kept coming at you even when his nose was knocked off his face. And he never really bragged about his self, even when 49-0 speaks for it's self.


Marciano was a true fighter.

[Hawkins]

Smokin' Joe Frazier is one of the toughest to ever lace up the gloves. There was absolutely no retreat or surrender in that dude.

[metalinmybrain]

Well Marciano kept coming at you even when his nose was knocked off his face. And he never really bragged about his self, even when 49-0 speaks for it's self.


Marciano was a true fighter.

I respect your opinion and there is no doubt that Marciano was a relentless fighter, but when faced against opposition that was nothing short of an over matched challenge it kind of makes things more complicated. For instance, had Joe Louis of the 30's fought Marciano of the 50's I believe Louis would have had his reflexes and pure savvy out point him in the end. Louis was able to take a punch as much as he was able to get knocked down by one, in fact he has been down more than Marciano and gotten up more. Marciano is a warrior but a short lived one. Louis rained for ever defending his title like a real mad man. In other words Rocky Marciano never faced worthy opposition. Certainly not someone with youth and talent let alone a natural heavyweight to test his skill. He was battered by light heavyweights but came out in the end go figure. I think a balanced heavyweight would have made Marciano look average but in this instance it doesn't seem to be the case because Marciano did go undefeated just against anyone and everyone that either stop posing a threat years ago or never possessed one at all.

Ray Robinson is a warrior pal, he rose up from the bottom to defeat at the top. Moving up in weight class alone is amongst the largest testaments any fighter could accomplish. Ray Robinson did it like no other, led the way for Muhammad Ali who did it better because it was at heavyweight!

[metalinmybrain]

Smokin' Joe Frazier is one of the toughest to ever lace up the gloves. There was absolutely no retreat or surrender in that dude.

Yes, I would place him pretty high as well, he managed to break down Jerry Quarry while still taking a beating and we all know how tough Quarry was. He then takes a tremendous punishment from a very determined George Foreman who wanted to prove the critics wrong and obtain the title from Frazier. Still Frazier did not retreat but decided to take the beating in honor for his title than to just give it away to big ol George!

[Hawkins]

Yes, I would place him pretty high as well, he managed to break down Jerry Quarry while still taking a beating and we all know how tough Quarry was. He then takes a tremendous punishment from a very determined George Foreman who wanted to prove the critics wrong and obtain the title from Frazier. Still Frazier did not retreat but decided to take the beating in honor for his title than to just give it away to big ol George!

That first loss to Foreman really proved how tough he was. After every knockdown he got up, dusted himself off and was ready to go again. Giving up or staying down never even crossed his mind. Thats something that can never be taught.

[metalinmybrain]

That first loss to Foreman really proved how tough he was. After every knockdown he got up, dusted himself off and was ready to go again. Giving up or staying down never even crossed his mind. Thats something that can never be taught.

Well I have to disagree with you one one thing, your last statement. "Thats something that can never be taught." In reality it can, Cus D'Amato proved that. For a kid who got pushed around and beat up all his young life up until the point of his involvement with boxing, Mike Tyson was one big coward. Would cry to Cus all the time about how scared he was walking into the ring. He was always afraid to get hit, but the first time he did he realized he could over come that fear and did it with the help of Cus and his psychology lesson on fear. You turn fear into courage and you turn a weakness into a toughness. Dig deep and find your heart. Believe it or not had Tyson been knocked down before winning the title there is no doubt he would have gotten right back up. He took a crap load of heavy fists clean shots that even to everyone's surprise his defense can be touched. None the less if it hadn't been for his solid chin, Tyson wouldn't have made it in an era of tall hard hitting punchers. Taking all those punches and still standing is why Tyson was tough, Frazier may have very well had a soft chin because the Foreman prior to retirement did hit nearly as hard as the post retirement Foreman.

[Jim Jeffries]

I respect your opinion and there is no doubt that Marciano was a relentless fighter, but when faced against opposition that was nothing short of an over matched challenge it kind of makes things more complicated. For instance, had Joe Louis of the 30's fought Marciano of the 50's I believe Louis would have had his reflexes and pure savvy out point him in the end. Louis was able to take a punch as much as he was able to get knocked down by one, in fact he has been down more than Marciano and gotten up more. Marciano is a warrior but a short lived one. Louis rained for ever defending his title like a real mad man. In other words Rocky Marciano never faced worthy opposition. Certainly not someone with youth and talent let alone a natural heavyweight to test his skill. He was battered by light heavyweights but came out in the end go figure. I think a balanced heavyweight would have made Marciano look average but in this instance it doesn't seem to be the case because Marciano did go undefeated just against anyone and everyone that either stop posing a threat years ago or never possessed one at all.

Ray Robinson is a warrior pal, he rose up from the bottom to defeat at the top. Moving up in weight class alone is amongst the largest testaments any fighter could accomplish. Ray Robinson did it like no other, led the way for Muhammad Ali who did it better because it was at heavyweight!

A 22 year old Louis with 27 professional fights was knocked out by a 31 year old Max Schmelling with 7 losses already. Schmelling was a 10 to 1 underdog. As we all know he avenged this loss a couple years later and went on to become one of the GOAT, but he wasn't bulletproof.

[sleazyfellow]

yeah but louis was off his game, and took a good beating before finally going down. But neway the toughest to me is george chuvalo, he took HARD punches and never went down his entire career.