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    John L Sullivan: Facts and Fiction



    The great John L. Sullivan had more fights in bars and back alleys than he ever had in the ring.

    It is said he fought bareknuckle daily in and around the streets of Boston.

    In 1879, he challenged anyone in America to fight him for $500.

    In 1883 - 1884 Sullivan went on a coast-to-coast tour by train with five other boxers. It was scheduled to comprise 195 performances in 136 different cities and towns over 238 days. To help promote the tour, Sullivan announced that he would box anyone at any time during the tour under the Queensberry Rules for $250.

    It has been claimed he knocked out about 30 men during the tour, but there is no proof to back this claim.

    Fought to a 75 round win over Jake Kilrain, when Kilrains manager finally threw in the towel after the 75th round.

    Sullivan looked like he was going to lose, especially after he vomited during the 44th round of the Kilrain fight.

    Sullivan did not defend his title for four years befor losing to Gentleman Jim Corbett in a 21 round battle in 1892.

    The Corbett contest occurred under the Marquess of Queensberry rules, but it was neither the first title fight under those rules nor was it the first title fight using boxing gloves.

    Sullivan is considered the last bare-knuckle champion because no champion after him fought bare-knuckled.

    However, Sullivan had fought with gloves under the Marquess of Queensberry rules as early as 1880 and he only fought bare knuckle three times in his entire career (Ryan 1882, Mitchell 1888, and Kilrain 1889).

    His bare-knuckle image was created because both his infrequent fights from 1888 up to the Corbett fight in 1892 had been bare-knuckle.
    Last edited by CletusVanDamme; 04-13-2007, 09:56 AM.

    #2
    Good stuff!Thanks Cletus..

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      #3
      Originally posted by CletusVanDamme View Post


      The great John L. Sullivan had more fights in bars and back alleys than he ever had in the ring.

      It is said he fought bareknuckle daily in and around the streets of Boston.

      In 1879, he challenged anyone in America to fight him for $500.

      In 1883 - 1884 Sullivan went on a coast-to-coast tour by train with five other boxers. It was scheduled to comprise 195 performances in 136 different cities and towns over 238 days. To help promote the tour, Sullivan announced that he would box anyone at any time during the tour under the Queensberry Rules for $250.

      It has been claimed he knocked out about 30 men during the tour, but there is no proof to back this claim.

      Fought to a 75 round win over Jake Kilrain, when Kilrains manager finally threw in the towel after the 75th round.

      Sullivan looked like he was going to lose, especially after he vomited during the 44th round of the Kilrain fight.

      Sullivan did not defend his title for four years befor losing to Gentleman Jim Corbett in a 21 round battle in 1892.

      The Corbett contest occurred under the Marquess of Queensberry rules, but it was neither the first title fight under those rules nor was it the first title fight using boxing gloves.

      Sullivan is considered the last bare-knuckle champion because no champion after him fought bare-knuckled.

      However, Sullivan had fought with gloves under the Marquess of Queensberry rules as early as 1880 and he only fought bare knuckle three times in his entire career (Ryan 1882, Mitchell 1888, and Kilrain 1889).

      His bare-knuckle image was created because both his infrequent fights from 1888 up to the Corbett fight in 1892 had been bare-knuckle.
      He was also a racist and was scared of Peter Jackson.

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        #4
        Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
        He was also a racist and was scared of Peter Jackson.
        You're so predictable, that I would have written this exact post for you if I had logged on earlier.

        But I don't think Sullivan was scared of anyone.

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          #5
          Originally posted by butterfly1964 View Post
          He was also a racist and was scared of Peter Jackson.
          Lord of the rings is overated.

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            #6
            Originally posted by kayjay View Post
            You're so predictable, that I would have written this exact post for you if I had logged on earlier.

            But I don't think Sullivan was scared of anyone.
            Then why didn't he fight him?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Southpaw Stinger View Post
              Lord of the rings is overated.

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                #8
                1. Lord of the Rings is trash, but that's irrelavent.

                2. I can't answer butterfly's question, but it's too easy to explain instances of racial discrimination by saying that the white guy is 'afraid'.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by kayjay View Post
                  1. Lord of the Rings is trash, but that's irrelavent.

                  2. I can't answer butterfly's question, but it's too easy to explain instances of racial discrimination by saying that the white guy is 'afraid'.
                  he must have been. Jackson was the outstanding contender, and if Sullivan thought he could beat him, then he would fight him. He didn't. Therefore, he was scared.

                  I win.

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                    #10
                    Don't be silly.

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