Any one knows John L Sullivan's real boxing record????

[leff]

I don't get what you're saying.

im saying if your a soldier in a dictatorship in the times off war, you have to do what you are told even if it includes killing enocent.

ask yourselve, would you kill a guy to avoid being killed yourselve? i would

[leff]

Well, since you're the only one who responded to it in that way, then more than likely every one else understood what I was trying to say, which would make you the "dumbass", wouldn't it?

nope, didnt understand it before i read your explanation

[butterfly1964]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the "couple of blacks" Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries beat were the best of the black fighters..I'm assuming this because seeing as how black fighters were looked down upon so fiercely it only makes sense that if a black fighter even got a crack at a white fighter he must have been pretty good....So wouldn't that mean that Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries all fought the best of both leagues?

Also just because Johnson was a "better" boxer then Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries that doesn't mean he was a better fighter..Its not always the boxer who wins the fight..

I don't consider beating one or two as beating "the best". To beat "the best", you have to beat all the best. Johnson did that, Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, and Jeffries did not.

You're right in saying that the boxer does not always win the fight, but if all you have going for you is braun, then you just don't have that much going for you.Johnson was not only the beter boxer than the other four mentioned, he was the more complete fighter, IMO (even though some people will have you believed that Jeffries was more complete). Brawling with someone like Johnson just would not be enough when he has all those tools to combat that.

Johnson is better, period.

[butterfly1964]

im saying if your a soldier in a dictatorship in the times off war, you have to do what you are told even if it includes killing enocent.

ask yourselve, would you kill a guy to avoid being killed yourselve? i would

Well, I wasn't talking about soldiers. I was talking about German citizens.

[Underboss]

@ all this arguements.

[butterfly1964]

nope, didnt understand it before i read your explanation

Well, then you should have read in between the lines as well.

[butterfly1964]

@ all this arguements.

Yeah, pitiful ain't it?

[Underboss]

Yeah, pitiful ain't it?

yup. but oh well. nothing i can do about it [IMG]http://i39.***********.com/albums/e183/DaDeHustLa/Smileys/dunnosmiley.gif[/IMG]

[butterfly1964]

yup. but oh well. nothing i can do about it [IMG]http://i39.***********.com/albums/e183/DaDeHustLa/Smileys/dunnosmiley.gif[/IMG]

Neither can I.

[Underboss]

Neither can I.

yes you can [IMG]http://i39.***********.com/albums/e183/DaDeHustLa/Smileys/talktohand.gif[/IMG]