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    #1

    The Best there Never was....

    Catchy title no?

    Here is where I'd like to ask, who were the best fighters that did not win a title in their career...

    A name that comes to mind is Earnie Shavers....

    Great fighter but never won the title...

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    #2
    He would have destroyed norton at any point in thier career, he also beat jimmy ellis i believe.

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      #3
      Originally posted by brownpimp88 View Post
      He would have destroyed norton at any point in thier career, he also beat jimmy ellis i believe.
      Yea but he didn't get a belt....He's part of the "the best of the rest"

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        #4
        I don't know if Shavers was really any better than say Bob Satterfield. Both had poor chins but Satterfield at least had considerable skill to go with his huge punch. Watching film of the guy is an eye opener; I had always thought Satterfield as a crude slugger. Shavers, like Satterfield, would always be at a huge disadvantage because of his chin. I don't think he was really great fighter, just a great puncher.

        At heavyweight I think I'll go with Langford with Jerry Quarry a distant second.

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          #5
          Is this question specific to only the heavyweight division, Rock?

          If so, here's a preliminary "off the top" ranking of the best heavyweight contenders, but I'm sure it could (and probably should) be shuffled around some if I spent any time on it;

          1. Sam Langford
          2. Harry Wills
          3. Peter Jackson
          4. Ken Norton
          5. Joe Jeannette
          6. Tom Sharkey
          7. George Godfrey
          8. Jerry Quarry
          9. Sam McVey
          10. Jimmy Bivins

          Honours to: Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Nino Valdes, Eddie Machen, Gus Ruhlin, Joe Choynski, Elmer Ray, Tommy Gibbons, Luther McCarty, Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Roland LaStarza, etc., etc., etc...Lots of quality heavyweight to consider, including a few of the modern alpha titlists if one doesn't consider them true champions (like me).

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            #6
            Golota would have beat Shavers .
            He was a great puncher but I think people tend to overrate him because of his power .

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              #7
              Not so sure if Golota would have stuck around one he felt that kind of power.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles View Post
                Not so sure if Golota would have stuck around one he felt that kind of power.
                True, but the Golota that fought Bowe would have imo. At his best Golota was a great fighter good jab, okay speed, and had good power himself. I think it goes to whoever lands first really .

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RockyMarcianofan00 View Post
                  Catchy title no?

                  Here is where I'd like to ask, who were the best fighters that did not win a title in their career...

                  A name that comes to mind is Earnie Shavers....

                  Great fighter but never won the title...

                  Heavyweights....In Chronological Order

                  1. Sam Langford
                  2. George Godfrey
                  3. Elmer Ray
                  4. Nino Valdes
                  5. Eddie Machen
                  6. Zora Folley
                  7. Jerry Quarry
                  8. Ron Lyle
                  9. Ken Norton

                  1980's....Birth of the Alphabelt Age

                  ....(Ken Norton included in this mess) I will be recognizing some "champions" as non-champions here....because they were "titlists for organizations", not "champions of the world".

                  9. Michael Dokes
                  10. Gerrie Coetzie
                  11. Tim Witherspoon
                  12. Greg Page
                  13. Donovan Ruddock
                  14. Ray Mercer
                  15. Tommy Morrison
                  16. Ike Ibeabuchi
                  17. Wladimir Klitschko
                  18. Vitali Klitschko

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Yogi View Post
                    Is this question specific to only the heavyweight division, Rock?

                    If so, here's a preliminary "off the top" ranking of the best heavyweight contenders, but I'm sure it could (and probably should) be shuffled around some if I spent any time on it;

                    1. Sam Langford
                    2. Harry Wills
                    3. Peter Jackson
                    4. Ken Norton
                    5. Joe Jeannette
                    6. Tom Sharkey
                    7. George Godfrey
                    8. Jerry Quarry
                    9. Sam McVey
                    10. Jimmy Bivins

                    Honours to: Zora Folley, Cleveland Williams, Nino Valdes, Eddie Machen, Gus Ruhlin, Joe Choynski, Elmer Ray, Tommy Gibbons, Luther McCarty, Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Roland LaStarza, etc., etc., etc...Lots of quality heavyweight to consider, including a few of the modern alpha titlists if one doesn't consider them true champions (like me).
                    No any division....I was actually hoping to hear some new names of some good fighters in different weight classes that aren't popular ...*run on?*

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