The Best there Never was....

[hemichromis]

True, but the Golota that fought Bowe would have imo. At his best Golota was a great fighter good jab, okay speed, and had good power himself. I think it goes to whoever lands first really .

actually golota had what it took to be a great fighter he just had alot of mental issues. he would bite people and everyone remembers him owning bowe before being DQed for about 10 intentional low blows

[hemichromis]

shavers was very unlucky, as i remember he fought 2 champs in his time both of which are easily top 5 of all time and each had a style perfect for dispatching shavers.

if he came up in the current era he would be a fan favourite and would be far more exciting than 95% of the current heavys

[brownpimp88]

Earnie shavers does have a few name wins. He beat norton, rondon, bugner, ellis and like 4 or 5 contenders. If this guy had a longer amatuer career and started boxing at a younger age, he would have been great.

Dwight Muhammad Qawi never even had an amatuer career and he is top 20 at 175 of all times, now that is amazing. Imagine if he took the amatuer root too.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

shavers was very unlucky, as i remember he fought 2 champs in his time both of which are easily top 5 of all time and each had a style perfect for dispatching shavers.

if he came up in the current era he would be a fan favourite and would be far more exciting than 95% of the current heavys

Yea but can't that be said for most of the ex-Heavyweights ?

[brownpimp88]

I consider the coloured heavyweight belt as legit cuz from 1900-1935, there were times in which that belt had the better fighter and it was more active. I'm not going to believe willard, burns, carnera were the real champs when you have godfrey and harry wills defending thier belts. Wills beat Langford like 12 times, isnt that enough to convince you guys he's a better heavyweight?

[K-DOGG]

I consider the coloured heavyweight belt as legit cuz from 1900-1935, there were times in which that belt had the better fighter and it was more active. I'm not going to believe willard, burns, carnera were the real champs when you have godfrey and harry wills defending thier belts. Wills beat Langford like 12 times, isnt that enough to convince you guys he's a better heavyweight?

Not really argueing with you on the legitimacy of the "Colored Heavyweight Championship"; but it's notable that Wills beat Langford after Sam was past his best and his eyesight was damn near gone, if I'm not mistaken.

[brownpimp88]

Not really argueing with you on the legitimacy of the "Colored Heavyweight Championship"; but it's notable that Wills beat Langford after Sam was past his best and his eyesight was damn near gone, if I'm not mistaken.

I dont buy it, its enough to convince me wills is the better heavyweight.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Not really argueing with you on the legitimacy of the "Colored Heavyweight Championship"; but it's notable that Wills beat Langford after Sam was past his best and his eyesight was damn near gone, if I'm not mistaken.

I dont buy it, its enough to convince me wills is the better heavyweight.

yea but if what K-Dogg said is true than basically any decent fighter could have beaten Langford. If your eyesight is altered slightly it can change the course of the fight. If he was almost blind than I can't honestly see him doing well at all.

[THE REAL NINJA]

I dont buy it, its enough to convince me wills is the better heavyweight.

Langford was not a true HV he only fought them because on one his size would fight him.Langford was only 5'6 and Willis was a legit HV yet still had trouble with little Tham . As i've always said Toney is the modern day Langford..............and yes sam was blind as a bat for most of his career .

[brownpimp88]

yea but if what K-Dogg said is true than basically any decent fighter could have beaten Langford. If your eyesight is altered slightly it can change the course of the fight. If he was almost blind than I can't honestly see him doing well at all.

Langford was still winning fights. If i'm not mistaken, harry wills was coloured champ for 8 years and he was more active in defending his belt than dempsey was from 1918-1926. This will truly haunt dempsey forever.