How to shoulder roll? (let's make an in depth explanation)

[DinoCop]

Says you.........

I'm having hard time countering the right, can't roll and come back still. So they don't stop throwing even though I evade first 3 to 5 shots.
Needs practice mate.
Also bending at waist really important.

[Rockin']

I'm having hard time countering the right, can't roll and come back still. So they don't stop throwing even though I evade first 3 to 5 shots.
Needs practice mate.
Also bending at waist really important.

You said can't.

I recommend not bending at the waist to begin, until you become very familiar with the territory. You get yourself rolling like a little James Toney. Then you get clipped by one that you didn't see nor expect, that's dangerous ground.

[SterlingStained]

I'm having hard time countering the right, can't roll and come back still. So they don't stop throwing even though I evade first 3 to 5 shots.
Needs practice mate.
Also bending at waist really important.

you have to employ footwork with the shoulder roll.... its not just staying in one spot and evading 3-5 punches...

you have to watch your range.... just changing your range will allow you to not even have to use the shoulder roll....

dont forget about your circular movements and giving out angles....

[KoChef]

Floyd used the shoulder roll so often against canelo, that was a great fight to observe the mechanics of it.

[PivotandRoll]

Keeping the right angle is very important. The person I spar with in very knowledgeable and constantly circles to the left to throw off my guard. I usually play full defensive as I'm just so physically superior which I think has given me some insight.

You have to give up the jab to the body sometime, you just do(Floyd/Oscar is a good example). If you are countering off a back step you must work on pivoting into the punch. Watch out for jabs up the middle during the middle of a combination. If you are in the middle of your roll(catching left and right hooks) you are vulnerable to a jab(Cotto/Floyd is a good example).

Angle, Angles, Angles and counters (Toney vs Barkley is a good example). Must be comfortable on the ropes(Guzman/Soto is a good example)

Also I find when you notice them trying to reach over your shoulder to land the right awkwardly you know you are doing it right. Reflexes are important, I never open with a shoulder roll until I get a measure of speed and power.

[Rock&Roll]

You been watching too much you tube and floyd mayweather IMO
This is an advanced technique which requires precision timing and lighting fast reflexes.
There is a reason most pros don't use it and even less amateurs.

In my experiences I went away from it after a while as i kept getting a black eye on my left side, although i deflected most punches , i got sick of walking around with a black eye all the time.
After a year or so and much practice i started using it again, but less often. I do love using that left shoulder as an important line of defense. Sometimes leave that left hand by my waist to mix things up (never the right one, if orthadox).

[Rockin']

The 'shoulder roll' will never, ever, be the same again after this thread.......