Prime Iron Mike versus Joshua or Wilder today

[Elroy The Great]

Wilder's looked truly awful since beating Stiverne.

He would only have had a punchers chance against Mike.

Mike would have gotten inside pretty easily.

with these hypothetical fights there are not ''right/wrong'' answer. just which is most logical.

i think wilders length and power would trouble mike. and sometimes ''awfulness'' can work in a guys favor. just my take on it.

[Elroy The Great]

Too long?

Wilder's size becomes a disadvantage against a guy like Mike.

Timing the **** out of him?

How? Mike would have crouched low and bobbed and weaved, whilst throwing lightening fast combinations with ferocity.

It would have been incredibly difficult for Wilder to have timed him.

as i mentioned to another mike fan, there are no right/wrong answers to hypothetical fights. just which pick makes the most sense.

BOTH guys have bums on there ledgers. yes, mike had hand speed, power and a reliable chin. but his movements were so predictable its hysterical. he got away with it because everyone were afraid to exchange with him.

but if a guy had the balls to actually fight back, mike would panic. its mho that wilder would figure out and time mike, tko/ko him late.

[Elroy The Great]

Mike didn't just beat bums, and most of the lower level guys he faced, he beat with ease.

Deontay has actually struggled and looked poor against B and C class guys.

wilder doesnt defeat guys before the fight, true. but i say the level of their opponents are exactly the same.
bums, everywhere you look.

mike did struggle vs guys who tied him up and fought back.

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GhostofDempsey



I think he needs a new username.

This is coming from the guy that says Dempsey would have been competitive in today's Heavyweight era LOL. Maybe vs Bellew.
Your opinion is invalid as you've proven to be a bigoted nostalgic nutter. You're the poster who dismisses science and is void of any common sense. This is a hypothetical conversation, there is no wrong or right answer.

You have the cheek to quote a Tucker post. I mean really he couldn't carry Lewis jock strap, he lost full stop. It's irrelevant whether it was a stoppage or distance. I've already explained the situation on Super HW's & the impact of Emmanuel Steward. The big men of today are much better than before if you can't see it you're just plain ******. Who's better than Lewis, Wlad, Josh, Fury & Wilder from the previous era, who was the same height? Who had better finesse?.

Lewis>Klitschkos>Fury (Lineal champions) all dominant Super HW's. Why hasn't a smaller HW thrown a spanner in the works & dominated the division?.

This is the last time I'll be responding to you because you seem stuck in the past & so delusional. The fact you're so adamant that Tyson steam rolls through Wilder without acknowledging the midgets weakness says it all. Go look up hypothetical please.

[juggernaut666]

Not many boxers are going to be able to handle an improving Joshua ,no matter what era they fought in. The 2 that come to mind are Mike Tyson and Vitali Klitchko as i see no one else you can give a realistic reason to favor over him. It all comes down to attributes and abilities not who fought in what era and who won in the amatuers , that pretty much leaves Wilder out of this equation bc he has not shown great abilities and can be pressed therefore Tyson knocks him out rather quickly .

Those who think Wilder knocks him out has never seen the Ruddock or Lewis fights 3 fights total show case how hard Tyson was hard to hurt , Wilder doesnt have the balance nor seems to react to punches well when landed cleanly , Tyson would lower the boom on him before rnd 5 ..

[bluzi]

How is wilder even discussed in a fight against a ATG and probably the WORST matchup for him ....... Wilder hasn't showed he is a top HW in today era ...... Mike under 3 vs Wilder.
AJ is much tougher because he can jab hard and can shell up much better , we did see him gas and rest for many rounds during the wlad fight , which for me is going to be a problem against a guy like Tyson , so i take Mike inside 12 where he just takes advantage when an opportunity arises , AJ has a very good upper cut that can end him so its much closer but i still take Mike.

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How is wilder even discussed in a fight against a ATG and probably the WORST matchup for him ....... Wilder hasn't showed he is a top HW in today era ...... Mike under 3 vs Wilder.
AJ is much tougher because he can jab hard and can shell up much better , we did see him gas and rest for many rounds during the wlad fight , which for me is going to be a problem against a guy like Tyson , so i take Mike inside 12 where he just takes advantage when an opportunity arises , AJ has a very good upper cut that can end him so its much closer but i still take Mike.

Tyson was more icon more than a world class Boxer. Remember this was pre Internet. If HBO/Showtime told the general population he was the greatest thing since sliced bread the public would lap it up. In this day & age there's no where to hide.

I'm just saying if Tyson exchanges punches with Wilder or Joshua, Tyson comes of on the worse end because of the velocity these big men are punching with. They don't need to be vulgar or play mind games to get a win. Their hands do the talking.

People think this is a video game lol.

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tyson vs joshua is an interesting fight

wilder just gets hit too much, and reminds me quite a lot of some guys tyson really did KO

[Irony123]

Do you class Wilder as a top fighter?

top 5 in the heavyweight division, yeah, but in the grand scheme of things overall time absolutely not. Even so i dont think Tyson ever fought super heavies on Wilder's level, he fought fighters who could be considered better than Wilder but they weren't super heavies, they were smaller and likely easier to get to.

[Kosta]

Surely a joke?

None of that makes even an ounce of sense.

Can't read English then, pal?

Idiot.