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    What strategy do you think Tyson would have implemented with Foreman?

    Do you think he'd go after him to try to get him out of there quick.. Or would he take his time and try to work his way in with caution slowly breaking him down with body punches?
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    foreman would be easy work for Tyson,it would just be a quick brutal beat down and be even up until round 3....foreman would press him,so Tyson would have no game plan but to hit a big 250 pounder in front of him,while foreman misses basically all his punches,Tyson would wobble foreman and by round 4 or 5 could see the fight stopped......look at foremans face after the Alex Stewart fight...that arm cross defense would not work for foreman here...and the speed is generally the factor here...Tyson would maybe even drop him on body shots since foreman never protected his body when covering up.

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      #3
      The same one he had for every opponent... Total domination and destruction..

      mike really didn't have much strategy.. He had great technique early in his career, but strategy wise, it was basically be a destroyer..

      Vs george, I can see mike doing a lot of ducking and staying low to get inside, before rising and unleashing hooks
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        #4
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
        The same one he had for every opponent... Total domination and destruction..

        mike really didn't have much strategy.. He had great technique early in his career, but strategy wise, it was basically be a destroyer..

        Vs george, I can see mike doing a lot of ducking and staying low to get inside, before rising and unleashing hooks
        Tyson didn't need much stratedgy,he reacted based on his opponents....he was a reaction fighter not a planner,he didn't need to be.Foreman main weapon against Tyson would have been his weight,and trying to push on him....I believe Tyson would have specifically prepared a little different for foreman.

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          #5
          Mike will dance, dance, dance all night long. He will stay away from big George and pepper him with long jabs. He will play Ray Leonard in New Orleans. When George traps him, Mike will deftly slip away on the ropes. Willie Pep has nothing on the footwork Mike would use. In fact, he will look even more like Pep than big Vlad does, as everyone knows Vlad is a combination of Dempsey and Pep, right?

          George had better go flat down when he falls. If he falls to his knees Mike plans to **** him before the count of nine, help him up and get another piece on the next knockdown. While raping him he will of course nibble his ears lovingly. Do not move suddenly, George, or he may have to take a lobe off.

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            #6
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Tyson didn't need much stratedgy,he reacted based on his opponents....he was a reaction fighter not a planner,he didn't need to be.Foreman main weapon against Tyson would have been his weight,and trying to push on him....I believe Tyson would have specifically prepared a little different for foreman.
            I think you got it backwards... Mike was a reactionary fighter,,, he was the action, he was making his opponents react to him, not the other way around..


            There was never one time, leading up to a tyson fight where you thought mike wasn't coming all out early in the fight.. Mike did it every fight, no matter the opponent.. He will really need to have sharp head movement and slips to get inside on foreman.. That I think would be the most tactical part of mikes approach.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              I think you got it backwards... Mike was a reactionary fighter,,, he was the action, he was making his opponents react to him, not the other way around..


              There was never one time, leading up to a tyson fight where you thought mike wasn't coming all out early in the fight.. Mike did it every fight, no matter the opponent.. He will really need to have sharp head movement and slips to get inside on foreman.. That I think would be the most tactical part of mikes approach.
              Tyson was an offensive and defensive counter puncher ,many times he would slip the jab to get inside ,i would say he made his opposition react to him mostly also,this is still not planning much ,just anticipating punches coming his way.If you want to see a perfect counter jab knock down watch the Tyson vs Ruddock first fight i believe .

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                #8
                Tyson had problems, not terminal problems....but problems, with big strong opposition. Witness Bone crusher smith, Razor Ruddock for example. Thats just a stylistic problem. For example, when Mike fought an aged Holmes, he could chase Holmes around and not worry about being overcome by an overly physical opponent, or a big punch. In a sense Holmes was always on defense.

                Mike likes this scenerio where he is the snake and the other guy the mouse. not that this scenerio always plays to the aggressor.... Tunney was the mouse to Dempsey but became the mongoose! But as a preference Mike always liked to set up his opponent to having to react to him and the threat of a big punch.

                Foreman could not really be broken down and in reality Mike never was one for systematically breaking down an opponent, so much as working to set up a big punch at all times. And that is what he would attempt to do...try to catch George like he did Ruddock. Of course Razor Rudock was no George Foreman and one could also say that Sonny Liston, who taught Foreman much...was a lot more careful defensively and circumspect than big George! So Mike has a chance to nail Foreman....but its a bad match up for Tyson, very bad indeed. George can use his reach and power better than the big guys who gave Mike problems.

                But at his best I wouldn't count Tyson, or Dempsey for that matter out for sure against any heavyweight...both guys knew how to use offense as a defense and could end a fight quickly if the opponent made any mistakes!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  Tyson didn't need much stratedgy,he reacted based on his opponents....he was a reaction fighter not a planner,he didn't need to be.Foreman main weapon against Tyson would have been his weight,and trying to push on him....I believe Tyson would have specifically prepared a little different for foreman.
                  This is simply not true.. For example, Mike had a feeling out process with Tubbs.. He didn't come out fast like he did with Spinks and Stewart.. He later said on that night it was because he was planning the KO.. He didn't always fight the same contrary to many peoples opinions and regardless he was more brawler than technical boxer..
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                    #10
                    Tyson's camp wanted nothing to do with foreman.

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