Is Hopkins greater than Archie Moore?

[Joey Giardello]

Is Hopkins greater than Archie Moore?

[BigStereotype]

Nah. Archie's an unquestionable top 20 ATG. B-hop isn't. Great fighter, not the Old Mongoose.

[Steak]

no, Moore beat better competition, and more of it.


A more interesting debate is who had the better over 40 career...but pretty damn difficult to answer, seeing as Moore was heavily rumored to be a few years older than is today listed.

[DarkTerror88]

Archie Moore is one of the 20 greatest ever to lace on gloves.
Hopkins is closer to the 50-100 mark if that.

I know one guy who would say otherwise though. Waiting for him to post...

[Anthony342]

How does Hopkins rate all-time among middleweights? I've heard commentators during his fights like Emanuel Stewart say top 5, I believe he still ranked Hagler and Monzon ahead of him, what's the consensus on that though?

[Scott9945]

I voted yes because I read it too quick and thought it meant post 40. On those terms I rate Hopkins the best ever, but as far as entire careers go it's Moore for sure.

[Perfect Plex]

Archie Moore is one of the 20 greatest ever to lace on gloves.
Hopkins is closer to the 50-100 mark if that.

I know one guy who would say otherwise though. Waiting for him to post...

Closer to a 100, really? Surely B-Hop has to be a top 30/35? No? Resume, Skills, Longativity, H2H, Ducked No One. He has the full package, what a top 30 needs.

[IronDanHamza]

Absolutely not.

[IronDanHamza]

How does Hopkins rate all-time among middleweights? I've heard commentators during his fights like Emanuel Stewart say top 5, I believe he still ranked Hagler and Monzon ahead of him, what's the consensus on that though?

I have him at #10.

Most atleast have him in the Top 10.

Can't see an argument for him being top 5, personally.

[Barn]

No way.

I have Hopkins No8 All Time Middleweight.

Say he's Top 50 at least whereas Moore I have in the Top 15.