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    Mandatory National Service - Top 3 Pros and Cons

    Proposals for the United States to implement mandatory national service, a requirement that people serve in the military or complete other works of service, trace back to the 1800s. [1] Modern propositions for compulsory service envision that young Americans could join the military or do civilian projects such as teaching in low-income areas, helping care for the elderly, maintaining infrastructure, and much more. [2]

    Public opinion on mandatory national service is split: 49% favor one year of required service for young Americans, while 45% are opposed. Among adults ages 18 to 29, 39% are for the proposal and 57% are against. [3] Is mandatory national service a path to unity and prosperity in these especially divided times, or an unconstitutional and unjust plan foisted on the nation’s youth by older generations?

    Pro 1

    Mandatory national service would foster unity and bring people from diverse backgrounds together. The partisan divide in the United States has never been greater: Pew Research tracked an increase in partisan differences from 15 percentage points in 1994 to 36 points in 2017. [4] Dan Glickman, JD, former US congressman from Kansas, believes that mandatory service would be a solution to our "current dysfunction" because "National service, be it in the military, Peace Corps, or other public or private sector opportunities, breaks down the barriers of race, class, income, geography, and even language. Young adults are granted the opportunity to see their peers and fellow Americans as a member of their team." [5]

    Around 30 countries have compulsory military service. [6] Switzerland, which has four official languages and three major ethnic groups, bridges its divides with a mandatory national service program. The European nation is identified as one of the happiest countries in the world by the United Nations. [7]

    Con 1


    National service doesn't need to be mandatory because the volunteer system is booming. 28% of millennials already do volunteer work, for a total of 1.5 billion community service hours annually. [9] Several voluntary civilian service programs already exist, such as AmeriCorps, Teach for America, and the Peace Corps, in addition to limitless volunteer opportunities throughout the country. [10] Since AmeriCorps was founded in 1993, over 800,000 participants have completed more than one billion service hours. [11] Applications already outpace funding and capacity, meaning that forcing more people to participate would be difficult. [12] There are 15 qualified would-be volunteers for every available AmeriCorps spot. [13]

    Pro 2

    Compulsory service would save the government money and provide benefits to all citizens. National service programs are a proven cost-effective method to address critical needs in the country. [16] A report from the Center for Benefit-Cost Studies in Education found that youth national service programs in the United States cost a total of $1.7 billion annually and returned a value of $6.5 billion, creating a social benefit of 3.95 times more than the cost. For every one dollar of taxpayer money spent on youth service programs, over two dollars of savings resulted. [17]

    The National Park Service estimates that using a civilian conservation corps to maintain national parks saves an average of 65% and as much as 87% on backlogged projects.

    Con 2

    Mandating national service violates the constitution and would infringe on the freedom to choose what to do with our lives. The 13th ********* to the US Constitution states, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States." [22]

    Pro 3


    Performing national service would help young people mature and serve as a bridge to adulthood. 98% of students who took a gap year between high school and college reported that the deferment helped them develop as people and 97% said it increased their maturity. [25] Gap year students tend to have GPAs that are .1 to .4 higher than their peers. [26] Compulsory service would allow all young people with the pursue personal development before starting college or entering the workforce.


    Con 3

    A mandatory service program would be manipulated by the rich and unfairly harm others. Wealthy people have been able to manipulate American institutions for decades, buying their way into elite universities and avoiding the military draft. [30][31] A national service program would be similarly exploited. Conor Friedersdorf, staff writer at The Atlantic, said that compulsory service programs "will be gamed by the wealthy, the well-connected, the folks with the social capital to figure out how things work -- and national service will be set up in a way that serves their ends and reflects their values and preferences." [32]

    I abbreviated some of the pros and cons, you can read the entire article in the link below.


    #2
    I don't think it would be a bad thing at all.

    I think its less about the people who volunteer now for various things & more about those that don't do anything now being exposed to new things & experiences that would be good. The best thing that can happen to a lot of young people is learning that the world is bigger then just were they are from & what they currently know.

    So it'd be a net neutral experience for the people already making an effort to do things like this, but it'd be a massive net positive for the people who aren't doing anything bigger then their own sh^t today. If it broadens their overall life outlook or ends up being just a short & unique experience in the life is all about the person, but idk that any of this sh^t would be a bad experience for a young person to have. And it would likely help get a lot of random minor sh^t done in the US that should be getting done sooner.

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      #3
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      Pro 1

      Mandatory national service would foster unity and bring people from diverse backgrounds together. The partisan divide in the United States has never been greater: Pew Research tracked an increase in partisan differences from 15 percentage points in 1994 to 36 points in 2017. [4] Dan Glickman, JD, former US congressman from Kansas, believes that mandatory service would be a solution to our "current dysfunction" because "National service, be it in the military, Peace Corps, or other public or private sector opportunities, breaks down the barriers of race, class, income, geography, and even language. Young adults are granted the opportunity to see their peers and fellow Americans as a member of their team." [5]

      Around 30 countries have compulsory military service. [6] Switzerland, which has four official languages and three major ethnic groups, bridges its divides with a mandatory national service program. The European nation is identified as one of the happiest countries in the world by the United Nations. [7]
      These days this would seem like a massive upside pro.

      Con 1


      National service doesn't need to be mandatory because the volunteer system is booming. 28% of millennials already do volunteer work, for a total of 1.5 billion community service hours annually. [9] Several voluntary civilian service programs already exist, such as AmeriCorps, Teach for America, and the Peace Corps, in addition to limitless volunteer opportunities throughout the country. [10] Since AmeriCorps was founded in 1993, over 800,000 participants have completed more than one billion service hours. [11] Applications already outpace funding and capacity, meaning that forcing more people to participate would be difficult. [12] There are 15 qualified would-be volunteers for every available AmeriCorps spot. [13]
      To me this would be less about the people doing sh^t already & more about the people who wouldn't even think to do something like this normally. I'm ultimately anti-religion, but I think the base of believing in things bigger than you are often good for people & this could be that type of thing for many people who don't have a thing like that currently & wouldn't make this sorta jump without someone pushing them.

      Pro 2

      Compulsory service would save the government money and provide benefits to all citizens. National service programs are a proven cost-effective method to address critical needs in the country. [16] A report from the Center for Benefit-Cost Studies in Education found that youth national service programs in the United States cost a total of $1.7 billion annually and returned a value of $6.5 billion, creating a social benefit of 3.95 times more than the cost. For every one dollar of taxpayer money spent on youth service programs, over two dollars of savings resulted. [17]

      The National Park Service estimates that using a civilian conservation corps to maintain national parks saves an average of 65% and as much as 87% on backlogged projects.
      Obviously a nice upside. One thing I wouldn't want this to be like is like how the prison labor system works which I believe is more about exploitation then the betterment of prisoners. I think thats one angle that could be problematic with this if you weren't careful &/or had the wrong people making decisions.

      Con 2

      Mandating national service violates the constitution and would infringe on the freedom to choose what to do with our lives. The 13th ********* to the US Constitution states, "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States." [22]
      This seems like a whatever-ish thing that'd be easily dealt with. New laws get made all the time & sh^t we had a draft for military service in the US before & how hard was that to make happen? And far less people would be dying I'd imagine doing this.

      Pro 3


      Performing national service would help young people mature and serve as a bridge to adulthood. 98% of students who took a gap year between high school and college reported that the deferment helped them develop as people and 97% said it increased their maturity. [25] Gap year students tend to have GPAs that are .1 to .4 higher than their peers. [26] Compulsory service would allow all young people with the pursue personal development before starting college or entering the workforce.
      100% with this. I think a lot of people that would hate this all the way up from hearing about it as a kid to when it was there time would likely grow from this type of experience & appreciate it more as they see gains made from it as they passed through it & aged.

      Con 3

      A mandatory service program would be manipulated by the rich and unfairly harm others. Wealthy people have been able to manipulate American institutions for decades, buying their way into elite universities and avoiding the military draft. [30][31] A national service program would be similarly exploited. Conor Friedersdorf, staff writer at The Atlantic, said that compulsory service programs "will be gamed by the wealthy, the well-connected, the folks with the social capital to figure out how things work -- and national service will be set up in a way that serves their ends and reflects their values and preferences." [32]
      This is always going to happen as long as money, power & influence are things. Idk that you can do anything about this nor do I think it'd matter all that much to the overall net positive this sorta thing would bring to people of all different segments of the US population. If rich kids didn't wanna participate that'd be a shortcoming that'd likely be exposed by them in the future much like these mfers around today who opted out of military service in their youth are often seen as people who are lacking.

      I guess you could make some sorta punishment that you couldn't run for or be appointed to political or various other positions if you didn't do this service in the future that might cut into some of the rich people dodging this, but idk that you could ever solve people dodging this that wanted to dodge it bad enough.

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        #4
        I'm not big on Federal Government mandates.

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          #5
          I like the idea of it in theory. I see potential all around for community service opportunities, whether it's cleaning up debris and trash in the streets, parks, beach clean ups, highways etc., to volunteering tutoring or translation services, neighborhood watch programs, working at homeless shelters, etc. So long as it cannot be exploited or abused, or privileged/connected types can't buy their way out of it, I would be all for a one-year national service or two years military type program.

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            #6
            It depends on the year. In 1969, when I was classified as 1A, mandatory did not look so good.

            But 1 year post HS community service is a good idea. I can see Man Down and G.O.D sweeping feces from tents housing illegal immigrants or washing urine from homeless people off the streets of LA. That would be PPV worthy.

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              #7
              I don't like the idea of national service for U.S. born Citizens but I do like the idea of people applying for residency/citizenship to the USA to have to do some kind of Federal service whether military or civil. Itd 1st and foremost properly vet each individual, itd teach them English, help form a U.S. work ethic, & hopefully install some sort of allegiance.

              I think itd be interesting to see how many people would still apply if they had to serve. All immigrants (illegal or legal) want is what the USA has to offer but provide very little to the country outside of their own communities. I think its time for Uncle Sam to start collecting on foreigners and not just through trade.

              All these Drs. and Nurses that we get from Asian countries should have to work for the VA or the military for a # of years. All these illegals from south of the border that want Asylum? 2yrs infantry service!

              No military or federal benefits should be offered without an extension of contract too!

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                #8
                S**t, I’ll serve crack before I serve this country.

                In all seriousness though, I’d never serve in the U.S. military, but if there was a mandatory national service I’d be doing something like teaching in low income areas like you mentioned.

                I’m not very pro-U.S. and I’d be all for a mandatory national service and I think others like me wouldn’t be opposed to it either if the service benefits our communities.

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                  #9
                  I think a lot of young people could benefit from a little structure in their lives.

                  I volunteer a few times per year in my local community, and for handsOnTokyo. It feels good to be of service to others.

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                    #10
                    Thought we are supposed to be free??

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