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    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Very interesting read. Couple of things I highlighted:

    Russia’s campaign before, during, and after the 2016 election suggests several themes. First, it is an interesting historical twist that Moscow shifted its active measures campaign from demonizing ********** candidates to supporting a ********** presidential nominee in Donald Trump. To be clear, Moscow has never been motivated per se by U.S. political parties, but rather supported U.S. presidential candidates, politicians, and issues that Russian leaders assessed would benefit its policies.​

    It is striking and unfortunate that U.S. leaders, including the U.S. president, have not vowed to aggressively respond to Russian meddling in U.S. domestic politics based on the Mueller findings. Without a tough response, like Reagan did during the Cold War, it is unlikely that Moscow will be deterred from interfering again in the future.

    U.S. enemies are not just at the gate, they are inside it. Americans need to put aside party policies and confront these threats to freedom and democracy.


    I found it incredibly interesting the author discusses meddling was dormant from about 1987 until 2016.
    You got to take out the opinion pieces that are in the article, but the facts are there

    On February 25, 1983, KGB headquarters instructed agents in the United States to start planning activities to defeat Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. Headquarters requested that KGB agents establish contacts on the staffs of every presidential candidate and in the ********** and ********ic party headquarters. KGB leaders asked residences abroad to send agents to take part in the operation in the United States. KGB headquarters made clear that any ********** or ********ic candidate—other than Reagan—would be preferable.23 As one classified CIA report concluded, “Moscow would rather deal with a new administration, even though uncertain about its actual policies, than carry on with the present [Reagan] one.”24 The Soviets’ disinformation campaign was designed to discredit Reagan by labeling him as a warmonger and arguing that re-electing him would be a grave mistake.25]



    By the early 1990s, however, Russian active measures went into a deep thaw as the Soviet Union collapsed, the KGB was in disarray, and Moscow lost its Warsaw Pact allies to the expansion of NATO and the European Union.​
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      Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

      I never paid attention to politics growing up but WOW it's like watching Games of Thrones episodes.
      Its nuts. Next thing you know Jon Snow is not dead and theres Ice dragons.................

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        Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post

        You got to take out the opinion pieces that are in the article, but the facts are there

        On February 25, 1983, KGB headquarters instructed agents in the United States to start planning activities to defeat Reagan in the 1984 presidential election. Headquarters requested that KGB agents establish contacts on the staffs of every presidential candidate and in the ********** and ********ic party headquarters. KGB leaders asked residences abroad to send agents to take part in the operation in the United States. KGB headquarters made clear that any ********** or ********ic candidate—other than Reagan—would be preferable.23 As one classified CIA report concluded, “Moscow would rather deal with a new administration, even though uncertain about its actual policies, than carry on with the present [Reagan] one.”24 The Soviets’ disinformation campaign was designed to discredit Reagan by labeling him as a warmonger and arguing that re-electing him would be a grave mistake.25]



        By the early 1990s, however, Russian active measures went into a deep thaw as the Soviet Union collapsed, the KGB was in disarray, and Moscow lost its Warsaw Pact allies to the expansion of NATO and the European Union.​
        I did look at the facts. It appears from 87-16 there was nothing.

        I think there are two things here- the history of doing it and *****’s restarting it with the Trump election.

        I think this gives a bit of clarity as to why it wasn’t seen as collusion.

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          Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post

          Its nuts. Next thing you know Jon Snow is not dead and theres Ice dragons.................
          Nice... I mean we get ppl locked up with dirt on them and they end up dead???

          I don't know if

          If I'm watching a soap opera live

          The WWE

          A Clown World???

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            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

            I did look at the facts. It appears from 87-16 there was nothing.

            I think there are two things here- the history of doing it and *****’s restarting it with the Trump election.

            I think this gives a bit of clarity as to why it wasn’t seen as collusion.
            I highly doubt it was "restarted" with Trump's election. But that's the article I posted so, so be it. It does say it "thawed" though due to the collapse of the soviet union. So there's that as well.

            But we can agree that "russian interference no collusion" has been a thing for decades, right?

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              Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

              Nice... I mean we get ppl locked up with dirt on them and they end up dead???

              I don't know if

              If I'm watching a soap opera live

              The WWE

              A Clown World???
              Definitely clown world. Just enjoy the ride and love your family. I believe we'll all be fine no matter which way things end up.
              Shadoww702 Shadoww702 likes this.

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                Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post

                I highly doubt it was "restarted" with Trump's election. But that's the article I posted so, so be it. It does say it "thawed" though due to the collapse of the soviet union. So there's that as well.

                But we can agree that "russian interference no collusion" has been a thing for decades, right?
                Yes.

                What we should also be able to agree on is whatever the interference was in 2016, it was on behalf of Trump and that since then his supporters view ***** as an ally.

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                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                  Yes.

                  What we should also be able to agree on is whatever the interference was in 2016, it was on behalf of Trump and that since then his supporters view ***** as an ally.
                  any source/reference for this?

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                    Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post

                    Definitely clown world. Just enjoy the ride and love your family. I believe we'll all be fine no matter which way things end up.
                    Do you really? Can you explain how we get out of the debt we're in? Or non native Americans taking Americans jobs? Or how AI will affect us all? Or how we can stop spending trillion dollars every 100 days? Or how we get out of this stage flatiron? I honestly would like to know and the new ***** budget just dropped.

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                      Originally posted by Madison View Post

                      any source/reference for this?
                      The bi partisan senate report for the1st part.

                      The many videos posted of Trump supporters stating ***** is with us and the fact his name is cheered at conservative functions such as AIPAC.

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