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[Madison Boxing]

I don't. I actually read the summary of the debate directly from UNESCO

Have fun

you are derailing the thread by the way... we are here to talk war , take your weird racist fantasies elsewhere

[travestyny]

you are derailing the thread by the way... we are here to talk war , take your weird racist fantasies elsewhere

I don't give a ffvvck. You derailed it further by writing a number of meaningless messages to me. Deal with it, bltch.

[Zaroku]

You came in here and attacked me, and now you are crying. Wahhhhhh Wahhhh.

Shut the fcck up, bltch. Go shower with Johnny and pretend he's Tuggle.

I respect you bro

I ain’t no *****

in prison I met a cast of characters

was a time out

tuggle was just our idol
Idol I h s

I was just a guy who worked hard and bought my mom a house

i wonder why you attack people I was sad a long time because a lot of good people are in prison for really nothing

[travestyny]

I respect you bro

I ain’t no *****

in prison I met a cast of characters

was a time out

tuggle was just our idol
Idol I h s

I was just a guy who worked hard and bought my mom a house

i wonder why you attack people I was sad a long time because a lot of good people are in prison for really nothing

I attack people who attack me.

Problem is that when I attack back, they cry.

[Zaroku]

Be a man

[Slugfester]

It really is time for some counter brutality. The lesson needs to be taught right now. Shooting down drones is no deterrent to them, just a disappointment. They don't even need a band-aid so far.

[Dr. Z]

just to save you time, that psoter was on here saying cleopatra was black despite all the egyptians and reputable historians saying otherwise.... he cant be reasoned with

He thinks what? Nevermind.

[Dr. Z]

This topic was already debated before UNESCO.

Spoiler alert...your side lost. Try to wrap your small head around the truth, pun intended.

DUDE. This man....




According to Andrew Francis Clark, Associate Professor of History at the and Lucie Colvin Phillips, Professor of African Studies in the , "although Diop's work has been influential, it has generally been discredited by historians".

Robert O. Collins, a former history professor at , and James M. Burns, a professor in history at , have both characterized Diop's writings on Ancient Egypt as "".

Diop's book Civilization or Barbarism was described as Afrocentric by professor of philosophy and author .According to , Diop's works were criticised by leading French who opposed the radical movements of African organizations against imperialism, but they (and later critics) noted the value of his works for the generation of a propaganda program that would promote . Likewise, Santiago Juan-Navarro, a professor of Spanish at described Diop as having "undertaken the task of supporting this Afrocentric view of history from an equally radical and 'mythic' point of view".

Historian Robin Derricourt, in summarizing Diop's legacy, states that his work "increased francophone black pride, though trapped within dated models of racial classification". Stephen Howe, professor of the in , writes that Diop's work is built mostly upon disagreements with thinkers like , and , and criticizes him for "failing to take modern research into account."

Kevin MacDonald, a doctor of archeology, was critical of what he saw as Diop's "cavalier attitude" in making "amateur, non-statistical comparison of languages" between West Africa and Egypt. MacDonald also felt that such attitude showed "a disrespect for the discipline" and for the "methodology of linguistics". He did however state that Diop had asked "appropriate and relevant questions" regarding possible relations between Egypt and the African continent beyond Nubia.

Historian criticizes Diop's claim that was black, as being without qualification, a futile exercise and "probably the single most unsuccessful effort on the part of a scholar to determine the racial origins of an Egyptian notable".

, scholar of Classics, accuses Diop of supplying his readers only with selected and, to some extent, distorted information. She criticizes his methodology, stating that his writing allows him to disregard historical evidence, especially if it comes from European sources.

Historian and classicist states that Diop misinterprets the classical usage of color words, distorts classical sources and omits Greek and Roman authors, whom he claimed, make a clear distinction between Egyptians and Ethiopians.



- Taken form Wikipedia




You are a sucker to believe this and him. Let the historians judge him.

[travestyny]

DUDE. This man....




According to Andrew Francis Clark, Associate Professor of History at the and Lucie Colvin Phillips, Professor of African Studies in the , "although Diop's work has been influential, it has generally been discredited by historians".

Robert O. Collins, a former history professor at , and James M. Burns, a professor in history at , have both characterized Diop's writings on Ancient Egypt as "".

Diop's book Civilization or Barbarism was described as Afrocentric by professor of philosophy and author .According to , Diop's works were criticised by leading French who opposed the radical movements of African organizations against imperialism, but they (and later critics) noted the value of his works for the generation of a propaganda program that would promote . Likewise, Santiago Juan-Navarro, a professor of Spanish at described Diop as having "undertaken the task of supporting this Afrocentric view of history from an equally radical and 'mythic' point of view".

Historian Robin Derricourt, in summarizing Diop's legacy, states that his work "increased francophone black pride, though trapped within dated models of racial classification". Stephen Howe, professor of the in , writes that Diop's work is built mostly upon disagreements with thinkers like , and , and criticizes him for "failing to take modern research into account."

Kevin MacDonald, a doctor of archeology, was critical of what he saw as Diop's "cavalier attitude" in making "amateur, non-statistical comparison of languages" between West Africa and Egypt. MacDonald also felt that such attitude showed "a disrespect for the discipline" and for the "methodology of linguistics". He did however state that Diop had asked "appropriate and relevant questions" regarding possible relations between Egypt and the African continent beyond Nubia.

Historian criticizes Diop's claim that was black, as being without qualification, a futile exercise and "probably the single most unsuccessful effort on the part of a scholar to determine the racial origins of an Egyptian notable".

, scholar of Classics, accuses Diop of supplying his readers only with selected and, to some extent, distorted information. She criticizes his methodology, stating that his writing allows him to disregard historical evidence, especially if it comes from European sources.

Historian and classicist states that Diop misinterprets the classical usage of color words, distorts classical sources and omits Greek and Roman authors, whom he claimed, make a clear distinction between Egyptians and Ethiopians.



- Taken form Wikipedia




You are a sucker to believe this and him. Let the historians judge him.

I don't know what part of they had a full debate about this topic and your side lost you don't understand.


Just because it made some people mad and they claim it's wrong, doesn't give any substance or real refutation. When global specialists had the chance to step up and refute his work, they folded. Here is the proof:




Sorry. Once again, your side lost this debate a long time ago. Check out what UNESCO said about Diop's work. Enjoy!



Oh, and by the way, I like how you skipped this part of your WIKI article, so I'll post it for ya!

Positive reception[]


African-American historian called Diop "one of the greatest historians to emerge in the African world in the twentieth century", noting that his theoretical approach derived from various disciplines, including the "hard sciences". Clarke further added that his work, The African Origin of Civilization: Myth or Reality, challenged contemporary attitudes "about the place of African people in scholarly circles around the world" and relied upon ", and evidence to support his thesis". He later summarised that Diop contributed to a new "concept of African history" among African and African-American historians.

S.O.Y. Keita (né J.D. Walker), a , contended that "his views, or some of them, have been seriously misrepresented" and he argued that there was , anthropological and archaeological evidence which supported the views of Diop. The author also stated "Diop, though he did not express it clearly, thought in terms of biogeography and biohistory for his definitions. He also defined populations in an ethnic or ethnogeographical fashion. Nile Valley populations absorbed "foreign genes", but this did not change their Africanity".

, Egyptologist and professor of anthropology at regarded his work, The African Origin of Civilization, published in 1974 as "A highly influential work that rightly points out the African origins of Egyptian civilization, but reinforces the methodological and theoretical foundations of colonialist theories of history, embracing racialist thinking and simply reversing the flow of diffusionist models".

Guyanese educator and novelist credits Diop as a "unique unifier" in countering the "built-in prejudices of the scholars of his time" and presenting a more comprehensive view of African historical development.

, a Kenyan historian and editor of UNESCO Volume 5, stated that "Cheikh Anta Diop wrested Egyptian civilization from the Egyptologists and restored it to the mainstream of African history".

Esperanza Brizuela Garcia, professor of history, wrote that he "was most persuasive among intellectuals of African descent in the diaspora" and among Afrocentric scholars who had criticised the omission of Africa in the works of world historians. Garcia also added that his work, The African Origin of Civilization, best represented "Afrocentric critique" but "it does so without a serious engagement with the diversity and complexity of the African experience and offers only a limited challenge to the Eurocentric values it aims to dislodge".

, a Nigerian historian, called Diop's work "passionate, combative, and revisionist" and "demonstrated the black origins of Egyptian civilisation" in his view.

Firinne Ni Chreachain, an academic in African literature, described him as "one of the most profoundly revolutionary thinkers francophone Africa had produced" in the twentieth century and his radio-carbon techniques had "enabled him to prove, on the contrary to the claims of European Egyptologists, many of the ruling class of ancient Egypt whose achievements Europeans revered had been black Africans".

Helen Tilley, Associate professor of history at , noted that the academic debates over "The African Origin of Civilizations" still continued but that the "more general points that Cheikh Anta Diop" sought to establish "have become commonplace" and "no one should assume a pure lineage" can be attributed to "any intellectual genealogy because entanglements, appropriations, mutations and dislocations have been the norm, not the exception".

Dawne Y. Curry, Associate Professor of History and Ethnic Studies stated that "Diop's greatest contribution to scholarly endeavours lies in his tireless search for and evidence to support his thesis. Using mummies, bone measurements and blood types to determine age and evolution, Diop revolutionized scientific enquiry" but she noted that his message was not initially well-received but "more and more scholarship began to support Diop's conclusions, earning him international acclaim".

Josep Cervello Autuori, Associate Professor and Lecturer of Egyptology assessed the cultural tradition established by Diop and noted that "the West had failed to consider its contributions, sometimes ignoring them completely, and sometimes considering them as the fruits of the socio-political excitement in the era of African independence". Autuori argued that the academic contributions of Diop should be recognised as "a recontextualisation and a rethinking of the Pharaonic civilisation from an African perspective" due to the continued parallels between Egypt and Africa.

Diop was awarded the joint prize of most influential African intellectual along with W.E.B. Du Bois at the first in 1966. He was awarded the Grand prix de la mémoire of the 2015. The (formerly known as the University of Dakar), in , , is named in his honor.

[jaded]

This thread is way off-topic. Make another thread and debate Black Heritage if you want...but leave this one about the current Red Sea issue.