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911 was set up by the goverment!! There is proof everywhere!
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Originally posted by BrooklynBomber View PostWhat he says is true, America had little to do with the collapse of Soviet Union, I would even go so far as to say that if there was no America the Soviet Union would have collapsed under it's own weight long before.
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Originally posted by Sin City View PostThe CCCP collapsed because of The Arms War didn't they? No Arms War they would still be around.. they couldn't afford that one up ****. I wouldn't say the U.S. had nothing to do with it but I agree that Reagan was just lucky to be around when it caved in on itself.
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Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO View PostYeah. It had NOTHING to do with rogue states and regional conflicts. Chechnya? Georgia? No impact at all.
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With a mustache and a microphone alone... what have you done?
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Originally posted by WESS View Postif you watch that movie No matter if you walk away from it saying that's **** or walk away thinking everything is true, I guarantee you will not forget it... it will change how you view things. It might have you even feeling like a fool like if you were tricked or lied too.... its a crazy film man..... believe what you want, either way it is a crazy film... I recommend it to everyone, just as long as you are not EASLEY offended... especially when they speak of religion...
I never liked religion and was about to X out of the movie but i'm glad I didn't..i'm pretty much speechless haha.
I wish i could show my parents this movie in spanish..I doubt theyll watch it with just subtitles
ThanksAGAIN<3
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Originally posted by unbanrogelio128 View PostThe government loves usay what u want, believe what u want but there is no denying the fact that there is numerious facts the government ignores when it comes to 911. Scientist have proven many of their theroies wrong! But the government won't address them! Also why won't they release the video of this massive 747 ducking construction equipment, ducking a freeway, slamming the pentagon leaving this little collapsed hole and leaving the grass un-touched. Also since when does jet fuel burn hot enough to melt steel? That is chemically impossible! Why are these firefighters, cops, and reporters reporting multiple explosions before wtc collapsed. And how does wtc #7 which is no where near the two wtc collaps on itself? They claim debree landed on it and caused a fire which melted the steel as well lmao two days before 911 government officials clear out the south ends of all three towers for hours and ordered all sniff dogs and security out of the bulding. To this day government won't address that issue. Many employess and security have confirmed this to be true.
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Originally posted by unbanrogelio128 View Posti've seen several videos and have read numerous stuff on all the evidence about 911 and im almost 100% sure that this devastating tragedy was set up by our own goverment for numerous reasons. It really is sad when you think about it and the blame the government puts on arab countries to solidify a war on "terror" against eastern countries in order to control the oil. Anyways here is a great website if any of ya'll are interested in reading on all the un-answered questions the government fails to acknowledge.
here is two clips from the site. the first one is the actual and ONLY video the government released from the pentagon crash. They claim a "747" hit the building but no one is buying it and they wont release video to back up their claim.
this is the actual video
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and this is what it would look like if a 747 really would hit the pentagon
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alot of interesting facts, questions, and very respectable theories on this site if you're interested
You must see that there is a big hole in your theory. Osama Bin Laden ADMITTED to the bombing, and there is video proof of them rejoicing after the bombing of 911. Osama Bin Laden called it "blessed strikes" if you remember.
I am sorry, but your theory is only a theory, a very false theory. I know you do not like President Bush and his administration, but it was Osama Bin Laden that did all of this.
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Originally posted by Mizzou View PostSince world renowned engineers explained it in scientific and analytic terms. These people are smarter than anyone on this board and make people like you look like they've been huffing gas since the age of six. This is the last time I will respond to someone on this topic that exudes ignorance on the level you do. Everything has a melting point, including steel. Thousands of gallons of fuel burning in a concentrated area gets extrememly hot.of course not your a moron! Also, the architect of the WTC buildings said that each one was designed to take the direct impact of 2 jet airliners. No jet fuel cannot melt steel. If it could, foundries would not need to use induction and arc furnaces now, would they?
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Another interesting fact is that there was NO PANCAKING EFFECT of WTC Twin Tower floors hitting one another, from the top down. In fact, all 3 buildings (WTC 1, 2 and 7) all collapsed at freefall speeds (as if none of the lower supporting floors below displayed any strength, all of a sudden, and in a symmetrical, simultaneous manner, where all columns and supports FAILED at the same time, to create a vertical collapse into the building's footprints... ie. no leaning over on an angle like a felled tree)... Hundreds of thousands of tons of solid concrete all became PULVERISED and converted into fine powder, even after 56 minutes after jet impacts. Scientists have detected the presence of THERMITE in steel samples from the Ground Zero WTC site. Large pools of molten metal were found in the basements, still simmering at over 600 degrees Celcius, several days and several weeks after the collapses of the WTC buildings. (Much hotter than temperatures of steel beams exposed to 250 C flames) Very large 2.0 and 2.1 magnitude earthquakes were measured by seismic monitoring labs in nearby Universities, just before those 3 buildings collapsed, very typical of controlled demolitions. Several news crews, eyewitnesses and firefighters, and even video footage, report or give evidence of multiple explosions: "****, ****, ****, ****, ****, ****" occuring just a few moments before the WTC buildings collapsed.
Note that all or most of the jet fuel would have been consumed
almost immediately (in a couple of seconds, during the initial
jet fireball). Typically, the hottest temperatures that steel beams
experience in fires is around 250C to 400C (generally around
250C for cool oxygen starved fires which give off black smoke).
The jet fuel would have all been consumed in the initial explosion
when the plane hit a building, and it doesn't just "hang around",
to burn for 56 minutes. Don't forget that concrete is also fire
proof, and does not explode and convert itself into fine powder,
due to exposure to fire, especially 56 minutes of exposure to
fire. It is the concrete that holds up highrise buildings, not the
steel. Besides, the central steel core skeleton of both twin
towers DISAPPEARED, but should have been left standing
even if the floors all collapsed! They were not damaged by the
jet impacts at the lower levels, so why did all this steel collapse
right down to the ground floors? It doesn't make any sense.
If the pancaking theory of the collapse really did happen, then where are the pancakes? Where are the solid concrete floors which should be stacked one on top of each other? The WTC Twin Towers should appear much shorter, with no gaps between floors, leaving behind several levels of undamaged solid floors! So where did all that concrete go??? It all turned into fine powder which covered almost the entire area. Even if you drop a large boulder made of solid concrete from off the top of one of those twin towers (110 floors up), and let it hit the ground, it will not convert completely into fine powder, especially before even hitting the ground! All the collapse videos show horizontal puffs of demoltion squibbs (horizontal blast clouds) used to pulverise strong concrete supports several floors below the collapsing wave of falling debris, so that the building had no material to support the upper portions... this occured sequentially, all the way down both the South and North WTC towers.
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and watch the collapse videos at
Also, watch the movie "9/11 In Plane Sight" and the video
interview of Professor Steven Jones, nuclear physicist and
explosives expert at BYU University, who discovered thermite
which was used to cut all critical steel beams and the strong
core (skeleton) of the WTC twin towers... watch it at:
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Watch all the collapse videos and photos at:
...
This was definitely a real conspiracy, designed to fool all
people into hating ******s and arabs, to justify the invasion of
Afghanistan and Iraq, and to make war profiteers extremely
wealthy from arms sales, oil theft and reconstruction contracts
handed out to George Bush and **** Cheney's elite friends.
The "elite" owned mass media is also making big profits from
newspaper and magazine sales, from selling horror stories
from the middle-east. War is great for business! Well done
neo-cons, war profiteers and fear mongers! You have found a
way to get ****** rich from fooling and murdering innocent
civilians, and blaming all this on fictitious extremist ******
********* organisations, using fake propaganda videos about
Al Qaeda and Bin Laden (who has not yet been caught after
5 years)... oh yea, and by blaming Sadam Hussein for creating
threatening WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction) which have
not yet been found after 4 years into this unnecessary war in
Iraq.
Many of us have been duped and fooled by the lying mass media,
and are being led to our slaughter, to die for the war profiteers...
Even the London bombing and Bali bombings were organized,
not by Al Qaeda and ****** *********s, but by rich elites and
war mongers who want people to all be afraid of middle-eastern
people, for the sake of invading more oil rich countries, and
helping Israel become the dominant power in the middle-east.
We are seen as "pawns" to be used to fight wars for the greedy
and the rich war profiteers and fear mongers in power... they
know what they are doing, and they are interested in empire
building and more imperialist invasions and permanent
occupations of oil-rich countries, especially Iran, which will be
attacked soon by Israel, the US and the UK... pre-emptively
attacked based on more lies and fake reasons...
Don't believe all the lies and propaganda on your TV! Remember
that solid concrete cannot be pulverised and converted to fine
powder because it has a tensile yield strength of about 4000 psi,
or between 27 to 42 MPa, so the only thing that can weaken all
the concrete pillars holding up all WTC 1, 2 and 7 buildings, is
explosives and thermite used to slice all the steel beems by
melting, so that all buildings could fall downwards, perfectly, in
free fall time (zero resistance from strong material below).
Also the lease owner of all 3 WTC buildings which collapsed on
September 11, Mr Larry Silverstein, himself admitted to
authorising the "pulling" or controlled demolition of Building 7,
the 47 storey skysc****r building that collapsed 6 hours after
the twin towers fell. Remember that Building 7 was not even
hit by a plane, only suffered 2 small fires, and other buildings,
like WTC 5 and 6 which were closer to the twin towers and
which suffered severe structural damage and larger fires, DID
NOT COLLAPSE! Building 7 hardly suffered any structural
damage, yet it just collapsed at freefall speed 6-7 hours after
the collapse of the twin towers!!! Did you see it on TV?
The owner, Mr Silverstein Said these EXACT WORDS about WTC Building 7, which collapsed into it's own footprint at FREE-FALL SPEEDS several hours after the twin towers collapsed, and remember that Building 7 was not hit by any plane or by any of the twin towers:
SILVERSTEIN SAID IN THE PBS "AMERICA REBUILDS" INTERVIEW:
"I remember getting a call from the fire department commander telling me that they were not sure they would be able to contain the fire; and I said, 'You know, we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is PULL IT, and they made that decision to PULL and then we watched the building collapse."
If you don't believe me, hire the movie: "9/11 In Plane Sight"
If you are still NOT convinced, watch the original PBS Documentary "America Rebuilds" (buy or rent it on video).
THE ACTUAL OWNER OF THE THE TWIN TOWERS & WTC 7 ADMITTED THAT BUILDING 7 WAS DESTROYED BY PULLING THE BUILDING...
a demolition operation often takes several days, typically
over a week, to rig a building of that size full of explosives... So
HOW did they manage to rig Building 7 full of explosives within
just 5 or 6 hours after the twin towers collapsed, if the entire
area was covered in fine concrete dust, and WTC building 7 was
still burning in 2 locations? HOW could WTC 7 be "pulled" with
demolition explosives given such short notice, when it takes
over a week to rig a building like this full of explosives at the right
places?
The only answer is: WTC 7 was already pre-planted with
explosives before the jet planes hit WTC 1 and 2 (twin towers).
It comes as no surprise that scientists have found abundant
evidence of thermite on steel samples from Ground Zero, used
to slice steel rapidly so the explosives could blast away the
concrete pillars in a sequential manner, to send all buildings
falling at free-fall (accelerating) speeds.
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