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    #31
    Originally posted by tyson View Post
    To any christian, explain the Nephilim part of the bible.
    How does Cane move away to a far away land and find a wife???
    I thought there was Adam, Eve, Cane and Abel??

    (Genesis 1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
    God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?

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      #32
      Originally posted by filth View Post
      not becaue God doesn't know if we will change our minds - he knows, but to give us a chance to change our ways. it's about forgiveness / compassion not some inablity on God's part.



      that's about angels rebelling against God and becoming demons, then ****ing some human women and making half demon babees from what i've read. just remember, hey, i didn't create this
      "...there were giants (Nephilim) in the Earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them..."

      Not demons, giants.
      Sons of God.

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        #34
        Originally posted by Sin City View Post
        How does Cane move away to a far away land and find a wife???
        I thought there was Adam, Eve, Cane and Abel??

        (Genesis 1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
        God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?
        Another thing, if we are all descendants from Adam & Eve, two people, aren't we all inbreeds?

        Inbreeding makes for bad genetics. So we should all be ******s, shouldn't we?

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          #36
          Originally posted by Sin City View Post
          How does Cane move away to a far away land and find a wife???
          I thought there was Adam, Eve, Cane and Abel??

          (Genesis 1:3-5, 14-19) "Let there be light"
          God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?

          and cane and Abel's sisters, yeah, they ****** their sisters

          [QUOTE=tyson;3611690]"...there were giants (Nephilim) in the Earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bare children to them..."

          Not demons, giants.
          Sons of God.[/
          QUOTE]

          fallen angels. demons pumping the daughters of men

          Originally posted by tyson View Post
          Another thing, if we are all descendants from Adam & Eve, two people, aren't we all inbreeds?

          Inbreeding makes for bad genetics. So we should all be ******s, shouldn't we?
          yeah, we are descended from inbreds. it explains a lot, though

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            #37
            Originally posted by filth View Post
            i'm a believer but i stopped going to church a long time ago. most people who go to church aren't believers, they're just there for their "fire insurance ". and Vick, i'm not afraid to die. it is indeed very comforting to know i've got a spiritual buddy who has my back. being an atheist though, seems to me like being condescending prick philosophy professor who wants to deny everybody else's experiences - ones which he's never had, to play a ****** game about who's the smartest. yeah, i'm dumb, but athesist are just the guys who sit around saying how everything is bull**** and there is no such thing as truth because if they say something is they might be proven wrong later and lose their ****** game of being seen as the smartest guy in the class - the guy who ****s on everybody else's ideas but doesn't have any of his own
            See the thing about most atheists is that they don't believe in god.. but they don't rule out the fact that there could be. With evidence proving a god I would become a believer.. until then I don't. And you can't say I didn't have this or that.. If you only knew how much faith I used to have an pray. As I got older I opened my eyes up though and realised.. everything is chance.. **** happens... 9 times out of 10 in some situations they lay out a certain way.. does it mean that the tenth time since it didn't play out the same way was a miracle? No.

            And when you pray you could only get three answers.. yes, no or wait.. this is an illusion because no matter what you ask for it will always be that god either didn't want you to have it so he said No go did want you to have it so he said yes.. or it wasn't yet your time so somewhere along the line no matter how far in the future he gives it to you..
            that right there covers all the possibilities so how can god possibly go wrong? I could pray to this desk and still get the same answers.

            Anyway, I don't apreciate you trying to attack me.. especially since I have never done anything to you or tried to attack you at all.

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              #38
              Originally posted by tyson View Post
              To any christian, explain the Nephilim part of the bible.
              there is atleast a good 10 different depictions of which are talking about all which have their own meaning which one do you want?

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                #39
                [QUOTE=MizzzouMan;3611697]
                Originally posted by Sin City View Post
                waits incase we change our minds.. but he is all knowing.. then that would mean he would already know we would change our minds in the first place..

                like I said, it's contradictory.

                QUOTE]

                The first requirement in making a mainstream religous book it is to fill it with contradictions. Being agnostic is the only reasonable way to go. Atleast then you can freely admit you don't know what the hell is going on.
                Im writing this in read so everyone reads it..

                when I say I am an atheist.. I admit that I do NOT KNOW what is going on.. I admit I do not know where we came from or how we got here.. I do believe that it was not neccesary for a supreme being to create us though.. Some questions in life we may NEVER have answered.. but I'm not gonna sit here and be arrogant like most religious people and claim I KNOW the answer to all of lifes questions with no PROOF which I really don't! Who is more arrogant and being a smart ass.. one that says he doesn't know and questions and tries to find truth??... or One who claims to have lifes answers and know what he doesn't then provide no proof and get angry when you question them?

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                  #40
                  Originally posted by Mike06j770 View Post
                  i prayed tonight to win 36 million in the fl lottery...i got 4 outta 6...damn
                  So what if everyone prays and they all win the lottery, it gets split a zillion ways and you get your damn dollar back.

                  I'm torn on this. On the one hand I think that there is something magical about life and at times have felt like there was a higher presence (or maybe it was just intuition.) It's pretty hard to believe that one religion is right and the rest are wrong. That if someone lives a productive life, goes out of their way to help people, and is a genuinely good person, that that person goes to hell because he doesn't go to a particular church.

                  I think Religion has done some good, kept people with morals, a sense of right and wrong, etc. But it has also been responsible for a lot of suffering and many, many lives. I believe people should have the freedom to believe whatever they want, as long as they don't constantly preach to me or put me down for believing otherwise.

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