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    Bulking and boxing

    Ok so imagine a fighter. Let's say they are 5"9 and in boxing shape at 152, walk around at 155. Let's say they have a good build (wide shoulders) and can gain muscle easily..

    They bulk to being 205 lbs of lean muscle, and fight at 201.

    Can this be done? Sure there is height and reach disadvantages.. but Mike Tyson was 5"9 and hw champ... There is ways to overcome those disadvantages...

    Now to emphasize, they are not just getting fat. They are gaining lean mass...

    Look at Pacquiao... Going from 112 to 147... Some say he was malnourished at 112.. but surely he wasn't at 126... And he went to 147 with no issues... And that 20lb jump is HUGE...
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    Usually the person ends up less strong than naturals in that weight class, even if they have insane bench/ squat/ deadlift #s, real strength that applies in a boxing match is different. That paired with the height and reach disadvantage, as well as the lack of endurance a person with that body usually has doesnt usually work well. In my oppinion and with what I've seen, the only reason to go up in weight is if you cant make the lower weight any more or if theres no one to fight at that weight.
    But your right theres always exeptions, a really skilled guy whos killing everybody at 152 could probably make it work.

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      #3
      Originally posted by TheReadyTimeBoy View Post
      Ok so imagine a fighter. Let's say they are 5"9 and in boxing shape at 152, walk around at 155. Let's say they have a good build (wide shoulders) and can gain muscle easily..

      They bulk to being 205 lbs of lean muscle, and fight at 201.

      Can this be done? Sure there is height and reach disadvantages.. but Mike Tyson was 5"9 and hw champ... There is ways to overcome those disadvantages...

      Now to emphasize, they are not just getting fat. They are gaining lean mass...

      Look at Pacquiao... Going from 112 to 147... Some say he was malnourished at 112.. but surely he wasn't at 126... And he went to 147 with no issues... And that 20lb jump is HUGE...
      I believe Tyson was actually 5'11. Tua was 5'10.

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        #4
        I am sure there are plenty of guys who? With those dimensions can bulk to 200 pounds 'But it will be muscle upon muscle, so that is not very functional'.

        Mike Tyson & David Tua had big bone structures, thick and dense.
        Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 04-08-2020, 05:54 AM.

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          #5
          A few things I hear in this: when I hear "bulking," I tend to assume you mean over a relatively short period of time, like within say 12 months. (And maybe you don't intend that short a time period; that's just what I assume you mean.)

          When you're looking at someone like Pac, you're looking at growth and development of muscles/weight over a period of years. With training and fighting every step of the way. So he was adjusting to every pound as it came on, slowly, always accustomed to the incremental changes.

          And with Tyson, yes he was around 5'9" but remember he STARTED OUT as a heavyweight - 200+ was his natural size from the time he was like 18 or whatever. So he didn't have to adjust

          Now, I'm not saying it can't be done. But I imagine that since not a lot of fighters do it, there must be some good reasons. One of which, I imagine, is that after putting in all the work and time and effort to 1) bulk up and 2) adjust your abilities to your new size, what is the pay-off? Getting punched by other 200+ guys? If a fighter isn't succeeding at 150, will he fare any better at 200+? Again, I'm sure it can be done. I just think most fighters look at the risk/reward ratio and don't see it.

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            #6
            Good responses

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              #7
              Learn your trade well in the amateurs, solid skills. Best example Chris Byrd. Awsome skills, goes up like 40 pounds after turning pro and was just an awesome boxer. I loved watching him slip and get under those heavyweight bombers shots returning the fire in quick 2 or three punch combos. I thought that he was beautiful in the ring as a boxer. Add in Tua/Tyson power and Chris would reign for a decade. A truly artful boxer. Like watching Picasso paint...?.Rockin'

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                #8
                A natural 152 pounder, bulking up to over 200 pound + will have terrible cardio for competitive boxing. Promise!

                Try it if you don't believe me

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sugarj View Post
                  A natural 152 pounder, bulking up to over 200 pound + will have terrible cardio for competitive boxing. Promise!

                  Try it if you don't believe me
                  What heavyweight ever had trouble after wearing an extra 45 pounds walking into the ring?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by a.rihn View Post
                    What heavyweight ever had trouble after wearing an extra 45 pounds walking into the ring?
                    Ha ha; oooooh, let's have a think

                    But being serious; 45lbs to Mr Wilder is less of a disparity than 50lbs to a super welterweight (the thread starter).

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