Stamina is the most important aspect

[JadeaKallen]

If you don't have enough stamina, when you're tired in a fight your strength, speed, skill and everything else is gone, all that practise you did and all those weights you lifted were a waste of time. So stamina is more important than anything. And having more stamina is the best advantage you can have over your opponents. So developing stamina through running is the most important training for a fighter.

Who agrees or disagrees?

[bluepete]

Running is important ,but more so for movers.Sparring is probably the best cardio,but strength training is the best way to prevent the kind of injuries that come from roadwork and sparring.Running helps but if a guys a lot stronger than you in the clinches it will wear on you and sap your stamina.So I wouldn't throw out the strength work,even if it's just pullups and dips.And core and neck strength is super important.

[JadeaKallen]

I have no intention of throwing out strength training, only to emphasise cardio more.

I don't worry about clinches because I do kickboxing not boxing and it's easy to stay out of a clinch when your opponents at the end of your kicks.

[GGG Gloveking]

I agree that stamina is crucial for a fighter, but you need to build stamina through fight related exercise. Have longer sparring sessions, longer technique sessions, more time on the bags. Running is important too, but I wouldn't just run more and think that will suffice. Hone your technique while increasing your stamina

[bluepete]

I have no intention of throwing out strength training, only to emphasise cardio more.

I don't worry about clinches because I do kickboxing not boxing and it's easy to stay out of a clinch when your opponents at the end of your kicks.

You can never have too much stamina.I did Muay Thai at one point so I felt pull ups helped me in the clinch ,but I know a lot of good kickboxers and they don't do much weightraining really.Even in MMA ,where there is the grappling aspect it's true that cardio is king.

[SterlingStained]

If you don't have enough stamina, when you're tired in a fight your strength, speed, skill and everything else is gone, all that practise you did and all those weights you lifted were a waste of time. So stamina is more important than anything. And having more stamina is the best advantage you can have over your opponents. So developing stamina through running is the most important training for a fighter.

Who agrees or disagrees?

Running is important ,but more so for movers.Sparring is probably the best cardio,but strength training is the best way to prevent the kind of injuries that come from roadwork and sparring.Running helps but if a guys a lot stronger than you in the clinches it will wear on you and sap your stamina.So I wouldn't throw out the strength work,even if it's just pullups and dips.And core and neck strength is super important.

i agree with sparring being the most important for a boxer at least. if you are constantly sparring, you will naturally improve your stamina and strength.

you cant be a weakling with no stamina and continue to spar.....

i remember watching some video of james toney and manny steward saying sparring is more important than any kind of boxing training for a boxer. it was manny steward and lampley talking, and lampley asked a hypothetical question about whether a pro boxer can just exclusively eschew all other forms of training and just do sparring, would that be sufficient to do in the pro ranks?

steward said absolutely. and he pointed to james toney as an example as to a pro boxer who hates to do many forms of boxing training like hitting the heavy bag, rope, running, etc, and just prefers to spar.

i wouldnt recommend it. some fighters as naturally talented as toney can get away with it, but based on rankings, i would say fighting ability DONALD *****S stamina. What good is your great stamina if the other guy is just so much better than you in fighting/boxing? I would rank stamina and strength 2 and 3 right after doe.

[bluepete]

i agree with sparring being the most important for a boxer at least. if you are constantly sparring, you will naturally improve your stamina and strength.

you cant be a weakling with no stamina and continue to spar.....

i remember watching some video of james toney and manny steward saying sparring is more important than any kind of boxing training for a boxer. it was manny steward and lampley talking, and lampley asked a hypothetical question about whether a pro boxer can just exclusively eschew all other forms of training and just do sparring, would that be sufficient to do in the pro ranks?

steward said absolutely. and he pointed to james toney as an example as to a pro boxer who hates to do many forms of boxing training like hitting the heavy bag, rope, running, etc, and just prefers to spar.

i wouldnt recommend it. some fighters as naturally talented as toney can get away with it, but based on rankings, i would say fighting ability DONALD *****S stamina. What good is your great stamina if the other guy is just so much better than you in fighting/boxing? I would rank stamina and strength 2 and 3 right after doe.

True ,and Toney sadly seems to have tools the sparring too far considering his condition nowadays.But repitition is the mother of skill,as long as you don't get injured doing it.

[SterlingStained]

True ,and Toney sadly seems to have tools the sparring too far considering his condition nowadays.But repitition is the mother of skill,as long as you don't get injured doing it.

absolutely.

talent = the ability to work hard.


muscle memory = steph's ability to shoot 3s.
=MJ's consistent fade aways
= pernell whitaker's or pep's or floyd jr.'s defensive movements and reactions physically ingrained in him.

great muscle memory = repetition.

you're so absolutely correct about core strength.

i would say core strength is the most important physical area for a pro boxer or fighter in general.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

i agree with sparring being the most important for a boxer at least. if you are constantly sparring, you will naturally improve your stamina and strength.

you cant be a weakling with no stamina and continue to spar.....

i remember watching some video of james toney and manny steward saying sparring is more important than any kind of boxing training for a boxer. it was manny steward and lampley talking, and lampley asked a hypothetical question about whether a pro boxer can just exclusively eschew all other forms of training and just do sparring, would that be sufficient to do in the pro ranks?

steward said absolutely. and he pointed to james toney as an example as to a pro boxer who hates to do many forms of boxing training like hitting the heavy bag, rope, running, etc, and just prefers to spar.

i wouldnt recommend it. some fighters as naturally talented as toney can get away with it, but based on rankings, i would say fighting ability DONALD *****S stamina. What good is your great stamina if the other guy is just so much better than you in fighting/boxing? I would rank stamina and strength 2 and 3 right after doe.

If a fighter's stamina is crap then there skills won't mean anything. That's one of the reasons Marciano beat guys who were far better than him in terms of skills. Stamina is one of the only things a fighter has nearly absolute control over. Every fighter can have great stamina. If you can't be a better fighter than your opponent then you sure as hell can outwork them.

[SterlingStained]

If a fighter's stamina is crap then there skills won't mean anything. That's one of the reasons Marciano beat guys who were far better than him in terms of skills. Stamina is one of the only things a fighter has nearly absolute control over. Every fighter can have great stamina. If you can't be a better fighter than your opponent then you sure as hell can outwork them.

can you acquire great skills like lets say exquisite refined punching technique and still have crap stamina?

acquiring those great skills will give you a baseline stamina right off the bat.