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Originally posted by PitbullParsons View PostI disagree on the weights aspect. You can't really get too much stronger by using your own bodyweight and doing your calisthenics. They get you your endurance and weights get you power. If you utilize a lot of stretching with lifting weights you maintain your flexibility and looseness.
If you can do 100-125 pushup consecutively with good form.. 20-25 pull ups wgf.. run say...5-8 miles... and have 2 to 2 1/2 hours heavy bag sessions .... you will have all the muscle mass you need to fight.. I defy anyone to tell me different, it's an age old formula and it works. Most importantly it's a muscle who's singular purpose is to fight.
Efficiency.
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Originally posted by PitbullParsons View PostDefensive much? It was a safe assumption that someone who can't do 20 f@cking push ups hasn't been training long. The conditioning from having 84 fights alone should give you the ability to **** out 20 ffs. Like I said, work on your technique. You clearly need to work on the basics like your ground work. If you plan on going pro and are content with your technique then you won't go too far. You need to thrive for excellence and continually try to improve. Worry about your damn lack of conditioning before your power.
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Originally posted by ironalex View PostI was under estimating. I can do 50 full ones straight but I don't do it regularly. My conditioning is great I work hard but I just don't do the strength training as much and that's what I maybe need to do. I am striving hence why I'm asking what the best ones are.
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If you can do 50 pushups straight then do several sets of 50 throughout the day.
Shoot for a total of anywhere from 250 to 500 reps. Work up to those numbers slowly though so you don't injure yourself or run into tendinitis issues.
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Originally posted by ironalex View PostTo be honest both. I'm very good technically and have great defence etc but I'd like to hit harder and have more physical strebgth
I personally use a couple little websites...they give you rep schedules and such.. its very easy to follow
Hundredpushups dot Com
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20pullups dot com
I would start with pushups, though you can run a couple programs together in tandem. To get to 100 consecutive you'll need to be doing more in reps of course. The program feels real good to follow. There are also sites for dips and squats, may have been 100-150 dips consecutive and 300 consecutive, respectively, I don't remember... I just mainly run the pushup and pull up programs.. and road work.
But for power, as I said, that is improved through hundreds of hours on the h. Bag... , that can really be the cutting room floor of your entire power technique..where you can try things to eke out the most effective and efficient power delivery possible...
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Originally posted by Syf View PostWell we are getting into theory here but if you have muscle mass primarily from weightlifting you have to retune that muscle mass from what it was originally purposed for as you go. This creates disharmony in your form.
If you can do 100-125 pushup consecutively with good form.. 20-25 pull ups wgf.. run say...5-8 miles... and have 2 to 2 1/2 hours heavy bag sessions .... you will have all the muscle mass you need to fight.. I defy anyone to tell me different, it's an age old formula and it works. Most importantly it's a muscle who's singular purpose is to fight.
Efficiency.
As for everything you said about being all the muscle mass you need to fight, nobody denied that, but you can only add so much strength that way. The average boxer training maxes himself out on strength via those methods. As I said before, you are mainly training muscle endurance at that point.
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Chopping Trees or Sledge Hammer on a tie is a good workout for explosive power.
Otherwise 6-8 explosive push ups (clap or double clap)
1:30 minutes break 6 reps.
Work with a resistance Band and do straight punches
Do Uppercut with extra weight.
Work on the Heavywork hard punches only.
Improve your technique to fully twist your hips ( watch video GGG working with his trainer on hooks and look how perfect he throws a power hook)
Work on legs and core that will improve your power a lot
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